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blocking for farm equipment on flat cars
Posted by RichardGS on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:07 AM

I am modeling Massey Ferguson combine harvesters being shipped from the factory in Brantford Ontario on flat cars and would like to know if anyone has any information, past MR or NMRA Mag. articles etc. to show the blocking required. I believe they were loaded without the wheels installed to reduce the height. Wheels shipped on pallettes accompanying the combine.

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Posted by Steven Otte on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:29 AM

We ran an article by Mont Switzer titled "How to model a flatcar full of tractors" in our February 2016 issue. In it, Mont discusses blocking and bracing for tractors, and references the AAR Rules for Governing the Loading of Road Grading, Road Making and Farm Equipment Machinery on Open Top Cars. You might want to see if you can track down that resource, in addition to our article.

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Posted by OldSchoolScratchbuilder on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:32 AM

This thread definitely interests me. I plan to put construction equipment on flats. I'll look up the article. Thanks DJ

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Posted by G Paine on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:08 AM

This is an HOn30 flatcar SRRL 330 and 312 with a IH Farmall tractor and seed drill. I used a July 2002 MR article, "6 Farmalls on 53' flat" as a basis for blocking the tractor. The 4 row seed drill was too wide for the narrow gauge car, so the 2 outside drills had to be removed and shipped on a scratch built rack. The car is on the Boothbay Railway Village layout

Another good reference is MR JUne 2005, "Chains, Chocks and Shackles" which inclused loads for flats and gons - Cat scraper on flat, large pipe in gon, tanks on flat,

 

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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:13 AM

Also worth tracking down, although it has become a valuable collector's item in a short period of time, is Vol 20 of the Railway Prototype Cyclopedia which has an extensive article on flat car loading practices, including AAR rules, illustrated with drawings and many photographs.  There are extensive photos of military loads and how they are shipped and braced, which is helpful info beyond military because that includes all sorts of vehicles.  

 In some ways it is a more practical and easy to use guide than the actual AAR rules (which I also have circa 1950 -- pretty thick little books!).  

 

Can't speak to M-F loads in particular, but I can say that while farm tractors and some large vehicles/implements are shipped with wheels intact, I have seen large loads from Peoria's Caterpillar plant (easily seen in nearby Galesburg from the bridge over the yard) where the wheels are detached, sometimes shipped on the same car, sometimes on an adjacent car.  I suspect the wheels are removed for side clearance and vertical clearance purposes.

Mont Switzer's excellent article is about loading and bracing from a practical operating layout standpoint -- that is, the loads are meant to be removed as part of operating sessions.  Full prototype loading practices, with all the bracing and blocks and chains, are a somewhat different animal.  But one can visually approximate them and still have the ability to remove a load.  

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Posted by DSchmitt on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:46 PM

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Posted by RichardGS on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:35 PM
Thanks Steve. I enjoyed the article and have filed it for when I start shipping tractors from my "John Deere" factory on my layout. Richard
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Posted by RichardGS on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:36 PM
Thanks for the input George Richard
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Posted by RichardGS on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:41 PM
Thanks for this Dave. I also plan to make the loads removable, but have made a completely separate floor for each flatcar (.020 styrene car siding) that will contain the loads and machines permanently attached. These will be held onto the "parent" car with magnets concealed in the load (packing crates of tools etc.) that will clamp magnetically to the steel floor weight in the flat car
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Posted by RichardGS on Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:42 PM

Wow, who knew all that kind of information existed -just a click away. Thanks DSchmitt Richard

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Posted by garya on Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:57 AM

The March 2005 Railroad Model Craftsman had an article called "Tractors by the Trainload," that may be useful.  I also remember seeing a MR article on blocking flatcar loads (bulldozers, road graders) at about the same time, too, but I can't find it.

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Posted by DSchmitt on Saturday, August 05, 2017 6:14 PM
 
 
Large crane and shovel loads from parts of different scales
 
Caterpillar D8 bulldozer and No. 80 pull scraper
flatcar  freight  load  N 
 
farm machinery as flatcar loads
from N Scale May 2004  p. 30
flatcar  freight  load  N 

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