7j43k maxman A member of our club is an engineer for one of the large eastern railroads. Somehow the engineer was found reponsible and got time off. I am curious what his union rep has to say about the matter. Ed
maxman A member of our club is an engineer for one of the large eastern railroads. Somehow the engineer was found reponsible and got time off.
A member of our club is an engineer for one of the large eastern railroads.
Somehow the engineer was found reponsible and got time off.
I am curious what his union rep has to say about the matter.
Ed
Unless the engineer signed for it voluntarily, there would be an investigation before discipline is given. (Railroad is judge, jury and prosecuter so you can imagine how investigations usually turns out.) The employee can appeal the decision. If not overturned by a higher railroad authority, it ultimately goes to arbitration. If an arbitator finds the employee was unjustly disciplined, they can award the offense be removed from the employee's record and the railroad pay lost wages for any time off.
Some parts of the railroad I work for used to try to fire every crewmember involved in an incident. Because of losing cases in arbitration, they have toned that practice down.
Jeff
dehusman Re-litigating an investigation about which all the details and all the charges aren't known isn't a particularly good idea. Very easy to wander astray.
Re-litigating an investigation about which all the details and all the charges aren't known isn't a particularly good idea. Very easy to wander astray.
Back in '83 I was among 3 taken out of service for operation rule infraction The other two was the other brakeman and the conductor. The engineer got off because he had nothing to do with the infraction.
Oddly we did that move many times in the past under Chessie with nothing said but,the new CSX had peeking Tommies everywhere.
Larry
Conductor.
Summerset Ry.
"Stay Alert, Don't get hurt Safety First!"
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
So am I.. Last track I had the conductor was still in charge.
tomikawaTTIf a train was a ship, the conductor would be the captain, fully responsible for safe and efficient operation.
I guess the rules have changed re: fully responsible. A member of our club is an engineer for one of the large eastern railroads. The conductor missed something on the paperwork that indicated one of the cars was plate "F", and also failed to notice when he walked the train. The train had to negotiate some Amtrak trackage and the gap between the top of the plate "F" car and the overhead decreased enough that the overhead arced and tripped the line.
Somehow the engineer was found reponsible and got time off. Don't know what the conductor got.
tomikawaTTIf a train was a ship, the conductor would be the captain, fully responsible for safe and efficient operation. On early railroads, the conductor was frequently addressed as, "Captain."
Into the 1970's it was fairly common to address a passenger conductor as "Captain" or "Cap" if you wanted a favor (like deadheading on a prohibited train).
tomikawaTT If a train was a ship, the conductor would be the captain, fully responsible for safe and efficient operation. On early railroads, the conductor was frequently addressed as, "Captain." Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
If a train was a ship, the conductor would be the captain, fully responsible for safe and efficient operation. On early railroads, the conductor was frequently addressed as, "Captain."
Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
Reminds me of an old verse. "Conductor, conductor, captain of the train. His head is in a phone box, his butt out in the rain."
http://the2nomads.org/ImageDatabase/Railroads/ChesterValleyRailroad/CVR100-atCH1267small.jpg
tomikawaTT On early railroads, the conductor was frequently addressed as, "Captain."
Chuck,Some of those old line PRR conductors would be address as Mr.(insert last name) while others was called by their first names.
One thing I learn one didn't want to end up on the bad side of a conductor. As a nobody student I addressed them as Mr. After becoming a rookie one had to prove he could do the work before being accepted as a "real" brakeman.
On a passenger train, the conductior is responsible for collecting tickets, completing paperwork, and assisting passengers.
trainman50 what is the job and responsability'S of a train conductor
what is the job and responsability'S of a train conductor
The freight conductor was the foreman and in full charge of the train and crew.
His duties was to do paper work,observe the brakemen for operating rule and safety violations as they went about their work,confer with the engineer on train and work orders and to go over the daily bulletin special orders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductor_(rail)
https://www.thebalance.com/what-does-a-railroad-conductor-do-1361526
Rich
If you ever fall over in public, pick yourself up and say “sorry it’s been a while since I inhabited a body.” And just walk away.
March 2017 MR had an article on the role of the conductor. Your public library may have it if you are not a subscriber.
Plan B Netflix Emperor of the North.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley