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Wide bodied passenger locos
Posted by passenger1955 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:08 PM

I've recently started getting into wide-bodied passenger locos (like the EMD F40PH and the GE P42 Genesis).

Could I get the names of similar locos in this wide body style so I can pick out some more to add to my collection?

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:11 PM

This one comes to mind:

 

 

 

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:53 PM

Of course, in the olden days, before there were planets and dragons and all, there were MANY wide-body passenger diesels.  Pretty much all of them.  I am assuming we're talking "post-dragon" here.

 

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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:27 PM

"Cowl units" is the more usual terminology.  

Back before Amtrak, EMD created the FP45 for the Santa Fe, and the Milwaukee Road bought a handful as well, for passenger service to replace worn out E units. Athearn has had it in HO and N.  I remember seeing the Milwaukee Road units in freight service after Amtrak took over (Amtrak did not want the FP45s).

GE had the U30CG which GE made by modifying the familiar U30C with a special cowl body, including fluted or corrugated sides.  I have some recollection of it being available in N scale early in the development of that scale.  Maybe Minitrix?

In the Amtrak era don't forget GE's P30CH, again based on the U30C.  

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Posted by passenger1955 on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 8:56 PM

Thanks. The term "Cowl Units" should get me on my way.

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:35 PM

http://www.trainweb.org/lonewolfsantafe/scax877a.jpg
The F59PHI is used on commuter lines like Metrolink and also by Amtrak.

Modeling a fictional version of California set in the 1990s Lone Wolf and Santa Fe Railroad
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Posted by mandealco on Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:59 AM

Hi

Although it was never built, here is one of 2 Alco Cowl unit proposals from 1967, in N-scale of course.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Sunday, May 21, 2017 9:12 PM

dknelson

In the Amtrak era don't forget GE's P30CH, again based on the U30C.  

Dave Nelson

 

As far as I know, the P30CH ("Pooch") has only been available in brass. I have fond memories of working in a former Great Northern "Great Dome" lounge on the Auto Train in the late 1980's or early 1990's when the train came to a stop in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night, with six-foot flames shooting out of the roof of one of these infamous units. The nearest fire department was called, and once the flames were doused, we continued under the power of the remaining two units.

If you get one, be sure to install a smoke unit. Thick, black smoke!

I don't believe any Pooches were preserved, but in light of their reputation, that shouldn't be any surprise!

Tom 

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