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Posted by Guy Papillon on Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:48 AM

The CN wet noodle logo was adopted in 1961. When was adopted the CV logo? At the same time, earlier or later?

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:19 AM

Hi Guy, I am certainly no expert on the CN or the CV, but I do like to research, so I tried to do a little looking around, and found this.  It appears the logo was first used on box cars in 1963, according to info on this page, about half way down.

http://centralvermontrailway.blogspot.com/2011/08/central-vermonts-42000-43000-and-44000.html

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Posted by Guy Papillon on Thursday, January 26, 2017 12:16 PM

Thank you Mike for that link to a very informative piece of writing. It clearly indicates that the boxcar I have never had such a logo even after 1963, the year the logo was adopted.

"This car shows one of the "as built" 42000 series cars after it had been converted to single-door and renumbered in CV's 43000-series. Note the "pregnant tapeworm" CV is centered on the door - it never appeared on the body of CV's single-sheathed boxcars despite what some model railroad manufacturers have offered over the years." (Marty McGuirk)

I will then have to find a way to erase that logo or repaint the car entirely.

 

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, January 27, 2017 9:29 AM

I find apply Walthers' Solvaset and then rubbing the lettering with a rubber pencil eraser usually works well if you're patient. Once you start to feel a little friction, add more Solvaset.

IIRC once CN adopted the 'wet noodle' herald, it tried to design heralds for all it's subsidiaries (GTW, DW&P, etc.) that were as similar as possible to the new CN herald. CV was the only one that really came close to the original 'wet noodle'.

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Posted by Colorado Ray on Saturday, January 28, 2017 4:25 PM

The new February 2017 issue of Model Railroad Craftsman has an article on CV cabooses that includes a September 1962 photo of caboose 4027 with the "wet noodle" logo.

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Posted by Guy Papillon on Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:13 PM

Guy Papillon

Thank you Mike for that link to a very informative piece of writing. It clearly indicates that the boxcar I have never had such a logo even after 1963, the year the logo was adopted.

"This car shows one of the "as built" 42000 series cars after it had been converted to single-door and renumbered in CV's 43000-series. Note the "pregnant tapeworm" CV is centered on the door - it never appeared on the body of CV's single-sheathed boxcars despite what some model railroad manufacturers have offered over the years." (Marty McGuirk)

It seems that this statement is not exact. Here is a photo of a 43000 serie boxcar with the  noodle logo clearly visible. 

Source : Funaro & Camerlengo

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Posted by CV-SE on Monday, June 11, 2018 9:26 AM

Guy Papillon

Thank you Mike for that link to a very informative piece of writing. It clearly indicates that the boxcar I have never had such a logo even after 1963, the year the logo was adopted.

"This car shows one of the "as built" 42000 series cars after it had been converted to single-door and renumbered in CV's 43000-series. Note the "pregnant tapeworm" CV is centered on the door - it never appeared on the body of CV's single-sheathed boxcars despite what some model railroad manufacturers have offered over the years." (Marty McGuirk)

 

 

It seems that this statement is not exact. Here is a photo of a 43000 serie boxcar with the  noodle logo clearly visible. 

Source : Funaro & Camerlengo

 

In many cases the "wet noodle" appeared on the door of the single-sheathed boxcars - but it didn't appear on the body of any of the single-sheathed boxcars. 

- Marty McGuirk

 

 

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Posted by dknelson on Monday, June 11, 2018 11:22 AM

A good catch - read Marty McGuirk's statement very literally and carefully about the logo and the body.   McGurik was talking about the actual body of the car.

Not sure what model the OP is dealing with but with luck his car is correct after all, assuming the CV painted the logo on wood doors as well as steel as in the photo.

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Posted by BMMECNYC on Monday, June 11, 2018 4:08 PM

Guy Papillon

 

 
Guy Papillon

Thank you Mike for that link to a very informative piece of writing. It clearly indicates that the boxcar I have never had such a logo even after 1963, the year the logo was adopted.

"This car shows one of the "as built" 42000 series cars after it had been converted to single-door and renumbered in CV's 43000-series. Note the "pregnant tapeworm" CV is centered on the door - it never appeared on the body of CV's single-sheathed boxcars despite what some model railroad manufacturers have offered over the years." (Marty McGuirk)

 

 

It seems that this statement is not exact. Here is a photo of a 43000 serie boxcar with the  noodle logo clearly visible. 

Source : Funaro & Camerlengo

 

To clarify:

The Noodle is on the door, its not on the body of the car.  

What Im reading above is:

The noodle was applied to rebuilt cars that were renumbered from 42000 to 43000 series.

So

A 42000 series car should not have a noodle.

A 43000 series car may have a noodle, but it would only appear on the door of the car to be accurate.

What is not immidiately clear is if the rebuilt cars retained wood doors.  My guess is no.

Edit:

I should probably stop reading half the posts before replying....Oops - Sign

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