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Caboose use in city switching

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Posted by leighant on Wednesday, January 20, 2016 9:28 PM

I understand Houston Belt & Terminal had ONE caboose they used in the late 1940s.  But most HB&T transfer runs had no caboose.  I lived near tracks first 21 years of my life and saw dozens of trains every day, never a caboose on HB&T.  In 1950s, I used to see sometimes man (brakeman?) riding on top of last car of train.

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Posted by dehusman on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:30 PM
On the other hand I had a 36 mile branch in Houston that had 12 TSEs per day plus two local turns into the major yard (Settegast) and only the locals had cabooses.

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Posted by strider on Tuesday, January 19, 2016 4:57 PM
Thanks for all the info, I'm basically just doing a freelance switching layout with only one interchange. I know the paperwork had to be done somewhere but didn't think they would drag a caboose all around just for that.
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Posted by wjstix on Monday, January 18, 2016 6:49 PM

Generally, before the 1980's, any time a railroad ran a 'train' (that is, weren't just moving cars around within yard limits) they'd have to have a caboose, even if it was just a transfer run from railroad A to railroad B. Also, when setting out and picking up cars, having crewmen at both ends of the train could speed up operations I'd assume.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, January 17, 2016 9:36 PM

IHB,BRC,Union RR, and EJ&E  uses cabooses.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, January 17, 2016 12:36 PM

Looking at the transition era (crew size laws) there wouldn't have been room in the cab for the brakemen and switchmen.

And there was and is always need for a place to keep the paperwork dry.

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Posted by PuttChoo on Sunday, January 17, 2016 10:16 AM

Went to Yahoo, entered Transfer Caboose, a large quantity of photos, info available.

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Posted by charlie9 on Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:52 PM

In April of 1961 the Terminal Railroad Association of St Louis had about 40 industry switching jobs that used a caboose.  These were not yard switching jobs nor were they interchange jobs that delivered to connections.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Saturday, January 16, 2016 2:55 PM

In the Chicago area before the popular use of transfer cabooses, B&O Chicago Terminal used wooden ex-B&O cabooses, many with their cupolas removed. Indiana Harbor Belt used cabooses that seemed to be very similar to Santa Fe cabooses, with blanked windows and other modifications.

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Posted by cuyama on Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:56 PM

The Internet is your friend. A quick web image search turns up at least one photo of a Detroit Terminal Railroad caboose.

From this web page comes this image

This is a newer-style transfer caboose, which suggests that there were probably earlier traditional cabooses in use as well. These may have been lettered for the Detroit Terminal, or borrowed from one of the corporate parents in their original livery.

Much smaller terminal operations without a lot of connecting trackage seemed generally less likely to use cabooses. Perhaps it depended somewhat on the number of road and rail crossings that needed to be shoved.

Era matters, too, of course. Cabooses were more likely in earlier eras. But they exist(ed) on terminal switching lines into current times. Here's the Richmond Pacific Railroad's former GN/BN caboose in use around 2011.

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Caboose use in city switching
Posted by strider on Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:21 PM

This is an operations question for those who've worked on a belt line or terminal railroad. Did belt line or terminal railroads use a caboose when switching in a city? I'm talking about a railroad like the Detroit Terninal Railroad that just switched within a city and didn't have any through trains. Thanks for any help.

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