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The weight of an axle with wheels

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The weight of an axle with wheels
Posted by Omaha53 on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 11:12 AM

What would be the approximate weight of a full sized axle with two 33" wheels attached? How many would usually be carried on 40' car.

I have a bunch of plastic wheels that I want make into a car load.

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Posted by 7j43k on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:25 PM

2200 to 2400 pounds.

 

The flat will likely have a stencil on the side that says CAPY  100,000

 

100,000  /    2400     =    42 axles

 

You will have to subtract the weight of the axle supporting structure, of course.

 

The load will likely look a lot better if you use scale wheels rather than leftover wheels from modeling.  I remember seeing some in plastic, but I can't find any.  That'll be your homework.

 

You can, of course, do searches for photos that will illustrate the solution.  Here's a sample:

 

 

 

Ed

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:58 PM

Tichy makes the scale wheelsets in plastic, although they're the older style ribbed-back wheels.  Part #3004 is 8 wheelsets, while part #3010 is for 96 wheelsets.  These are kits, with each wheel set constisting of an axle and two wheels.  They also offer a flatcar, complete with wheelsets and the racks to keep them in place on the car - it's kit #4023.

I bought the latter, but built the flatcar as a MoW car, with homemade removeable sides:

...then assembled the wheels and racks as removeable loads for a 41' gondola:

...and a 53' gondola:

Wayne

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Posted by NP2626 on Thursday, May 14, 2015 6:14 AM
I made a load of wheels for a gondola from the wheel sets I had been tossing in the garbage when replacing with metal wheel sets.  Yes, they are the un-prototypical pointed model wheel set.  This is one of those traps I've set for the rivet counters out there, to see if they will notice.  I actually overlook many such details that John Q. probably has no inkling of whether something I correct or not.
 
I'm also cheap by nature and throwing all those plastic wheel sets away always bothered me!  So, I felt this was a good use for them.  Maybe someone should come up with a conversion kit for making them look right.

NP 2626 "Northern Pacific, really terrific"

Northern Pacific Railway Historical Association:  http://www.nprha.org/

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:16 PM

I find that scrap plastic wheelsets (most of my rolling stock is equipped with plastic wheels, but there were some kits that had improperly-formed ones which were unuseable) make good fodder for scrap loads, especially if they're taken apart.  Axles, and anything else metal goes into a plastic container of chemical blackener - I save all of the wire cut-offs from making grabirons or piping, along with bits of scrap brass, copper, and steel, tossing them in and adding more as it becomes available.  Every so often, I dump the container onto some newspaper and let everything dry, then use it as scrap loads in gondolas.

Here's one with some wheels - mostly pizza-cutter ones, although there are some plastic centres from Rivarossi passenger car  wheelsets, along with broken sprung trucks, disposable lighter parts, something from a wristwatch and other assorted junk:

 

...and more of the same:

This carload is mostly axles:

...while this one is axles and the metal tires from those Rivarossi plastic wheel centres shown earlier:

...and this one mostly axles:

Wayne

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Posted by Omaha53 on Friday, May 15, 2015 6:59 AM

Thank you all for the weights and the pictures.

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Posted by yankee flyer on Friday, May 15, 2015 7:18 AM

Smile, Wink & Grin    Oh goody. This looks like a show me thread.

It appers that the axles have been torched off the wheels, and size dosen't matter in this case. (Wheel size that is.)

Have a fun day.

Lee

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