I found a photo and a video that serves the question but not the answer. First a photo.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3491139
Second the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_mtOOvPop4
The repainted gondola is black within 2:40 seconds. If you look closely it's in the same number series.
Amtrak America, 1971-Present.
Instead of a new thread with probably with almost the same title. This question is about Burlington Northern gondolas.
When Burlington Northern ordered new gondolas in 1980/81 in Cascade Green. My question is what year did they repaint the gondolas from green to black.
NittanyLion
Gleeful I am!
Nice lookin' cars.
Ed
7j43k angelob6660 I know that the Burlington Northern lived for 25 years prior to merger with the Santa Fe. In the beginning of the early 1980s the cars were all green with a big white BN logo. But the rest confuses me. 1.) The small Burlington Northern logo with the two white stripes on the left side. 2.) Plain brown colored BN hoppers. I don't know if they were redesigned in the early 1990s or late 1980s? There were three common BN lettering schemes. The first was the "big white BN logo" one you mention. The second was the "logoless" scheme--very plain. It showed up in '86 or '87, though Frisco repaints MAY have shown up in this scheme earlier. I believe there's also been talk that it was a leaser scheme. It would be interesting to see if there were any non-lease new BN cars delievered in the first scheme between '87 and '90. The third was the "3 stripe" scheme arriving in January of 1990. As far as I know, all BN hoppers were painted black, except for company service (MOW) cars. Which were usually brown. Exceptions to the above rules gleefully accepted. Ed
angelob6660 I know that the Burlington Northern lived for 25 years prior to merger with the Santa Fe. In the beginning of the early 1980s the cars were all green with a big white BN logo. But the rest confuses me. 1.) The small Burlington Northern logo with the two white stripes on the left side. 2.) Plain brown colored BN hoppers. I don't know if they were redesigned in the early 1990s or late 1980s?
I know that the Burlington Northern lived for 25 years prior to merger with the Santa Fe.
In the beginning of the early 1980s the cars were all green with a big white BN logo. But the rest confuses me.
1.) The small Burlington Northern logo with the two white stripes on the left side.
2.) Plain brown colored BN hoppers.
I don't know if they were redesigned in the early 1990s or late 1980s?
There were three common BN lettering schemes. The first was the "big white BN logo" one you mention.
The second was the "logoless" scheme--very plain. It showed up in '86 or '87, though Frisco repaints MAY have shown up in this scheme earlier. I believe there's also been talk that it was a leaser scheme. It would be interesting to see if there were any non-lease new BN cars delievered in the first scheme between '87 and '90.
The third was the "3 stripe" scheme arriving in January of 1990.
As far as I know, all BN hoppers were painted black, except for company service (MOW) cars. Which were usually brown.
Exceptions to the above rules gleefully accepted.
The two sides were different too. The reverse side would have a green panel on the extreme right panel (to demarcate the rotary coupler) and the extreme left panel left of the herald was unpainted.
There were also the bare metal hoppers with two or three panels painted green with a white logo.
I remember seeing about 25 of them come out of the venerable old ex-Pullman Standard Trinity plant in Butler PA in the mid-90s, right before they shut down once and for all. I think it was down to just the paint shop and fabricating end panels for covered hoppers by then.
Two old ore cars were painted black. The rest of the low side ore cars stayed GN or NP until converted to taconite cars or scrapped. Taconite cars were oxide red and yellow.
BN cars went from large logos to reporting numbers only to small logos. Mineral brown for covered hoppers came in the early 90's.
1. Can't give you an exact date, but at some point BN did switch to a smaller logo. Maybe c.1990?
2. BN didn't paint everything Cascade Green. Open hopper cars and gondolas were black with white lettering, and covered hoppers were often gray with black lettering. Not sure about brown cars - could be cars they chose to reletter without repainting completely (like say from the Frisco merger?)