The UP Forty-Niner is a Streamlined steam engine which was used to pull the "City" Portland-SF-LA Early series passenger trains. The engine is Brown & Yellow and I would like to know the make and date(s) (ACF-Pullman-etc.) and the color scheme of the passenger cars this engine would have pulled? And, who may have made or sold these models in HO guage?
joeldee-berlin
JDberlin,
You can browse through these pic's, new and old:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Images+Union+Pacific+Forty-Niner+Passenger+Cars+Images&client=firefox-a&hs=TaS&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=BtotU_2CA8SwyQGz3oHoCw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=649
Frank
The UP did have a streamlined 4-8-2 engine in that paint scheme. I think the brown may have been referred to as 'Leaf Brown'. The early streamliners like the 'City of LA/SF/Portland/Denver were powered by custom built EMC locomotives designed specifically for each train, dating to the mid to late 30's. I am sure that steam 'protection' power was used on more than one occasion. And that colorful 4-8-2 may very well have been the power.
HO models have been imported(brass) over the years. The 49'er was a train that was started in 1937. It ran 5 times/month between Chicago & Oakland. Most of the cars were heavyweights except for a streamlined observation at times. There were two streamlined steamers used, the previously mentioned 4-8-2(7002) and a 4-6-2(2906).
Jim
Modeling BNSF and Milwaukee Road in SW Wisconsin
The SP was also involved in the Forty Niner, a P8 pacific was assigned Oakland to Roseville were a AC10 cab forward assumed the head end duty for the trip over the hill, both these engines were trimmed in special paint not found on other motive power to signify their dedicated assignments.
Dave
The "Forty-Niner" was the name of the train, not the locomotive. As mentioned it was a Chicago-San Fransisco train run in cooperation with the CNW and SP. UP "customized" two steam locomtives, 4-8-2 #7002 and 4-6-2 #2906. The locos were given a "streamlined" shrouding and were decked out in a scheme of Armour Yellow and Leaf Brown with read detailing, striping and lettering. The passenger cars were mixed heavyweight (rebuilt) and lightweight cars. The train was finished in a two-tone gray with black and silver pin striping (not to be confused with the post-WW2 two-tone gray scheme usedon the Overland Route).
The BEST single reference on the train and its details is found in "Union Pacific Streamliners" by the late Bill Kratville. He had a full description of the train and even some information from the painting guides. Color photos of the two steam engines have appeared in the UP Historical Society magazine "The Streamliner" as well in in a couple of the Morning Sun books with color photos of the UP.
Thank you all!!!!!!!!!!!!
joeldee