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Elevated Gate Tower Orientation

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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:13 PM

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I can't recall where I read about chain-operated gates,

I've seen photos of elevated gate towers that had arm strong type levels that operated the gates..If memory serves I believe the elevated tower at the Mad River & NKP museum has arm strong levels. 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:53 PM

I can't recall where I read about chain-operated gates, but since I don't have to model much other than the gates themselves, they could just as easily be electrically- or pneumatically-operated, too.  I'll probably make the gates positionable (for photo opportunities), but otherwise non-operating.


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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:05 PM

doctorwayne
supposedly by chains operated from the tower)

Wayne,I can't speak for all railroads but,I know on the PRR and NYC  in Columbus(Oh) the gates was electrically operated and there was a silver level on the track diagram board that the crossing tender would push down to lower the gates and push  up to raise the gates.

The tender would check the train occupancy lights on the track diagram before raising the gates since he had been outside flagging the crossing.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Sunday, March 9, 2014 3:16 PM

I placed mine with the long sides parallel to the tracks, as it's crammed in between the through line and an industrial siding.  There are wigwags protecting the crossing, but I'll eventually add manually operated gates (supposedly by chains operated from the tower) - probably the reverse order of how it would have happened on the prototype:




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Posted by BRAKIE on Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:43 AM

steemtrayn
 
7j43k

In Long Branch, NJ, in 1951, the "guy" would talk to the kids who came to wonder at the trains.  All else was secondary.

 

Ed

 

 

 

Red Bank and Bradley Beach were like that too, in the  '60s

 

To bad kids don't have that great opportunity today.

Apologizes for going off topic but,I would like to share a fond memory from my teenage years.

A lot of summer Saturday mornings would find me visiting Bob(a PRR switch tender) I would spin 2-3 hours talking to him between trains and I loved hearing his railroad and WWII Navy war stories.

Here's the switch tender's shanty that was located between the Columbus Union Station and Front Steet bridge.

You had to walk from the Union Station to the shanty.

 

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Posted by steemtrayn on Sunday, March 9, 2014 5:23 AM

7j43k

In Long Branch, NJ, in 1951, the "guy" would talk to the kids who came to wonder at the trains.  All else was secondary.

 

Ed

 

Red Bank and Bradley Beach were like that too, in the  '60s

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:00 PM

In Long Branch, NJ, in 1951, the "guy" would talk to the kids who came to wonder at the trains.  All else was secondary.

 

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Posted by hobo9941 on Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:07 PM

At a particular crossing in Detroit, back in the 40s and 50s, the tower was square. The tower guy would stand up, and put the gates down. He did not flag the crossing.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, March 8, 2014 12:59 PM

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  The 'key' is that the windows allow for the operator to look up/down the track - This one has windows on all 4 sides - Take your pick!

Jim

 

Exactly.

I visited a crossing shanty on the PRR in my early teen years and watched the tender (Stan) go through his routine.

When a bell would ring he looked at the track board then down the track toward the direction the train was coming from and would lower the gates once the engineer started blowing for the crossing,he would then grab his "stop" sign and flag the crossing..

A cool signal between the engineers and the crossing tenders was the engineer would flash the engine lights from bright to dim and back to bright to let the crossing tender know he was stoping at the signal.The tender would not lower the gates and would keep watch for the engineer to brighten the engine lights signaling he was on the move.

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Posted by jrbernier on Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:25 AM

  The 'key' is that the windows allow for the operator to look up/down the track - This one has windows on all 4 sides - Take your pick!

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Posted by BRAKIE on Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:14 AM

Most towers I've seen photos of has the long side facing the the street like yours.

 

Alex,Most  crossing shanties was equipped with a track diagram board with track occupancy lights that would light up when a train was nearing..The crossing tender would activate the gates and would proceed to flag  the crossing with a double sided stop sign mounted on a pole or a red lantern at night..

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Posted by ALEX WARSHAL on Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:45 AM

I dont know much about towers, I could be completely wrong, but here's my opinion. I think you have it right way because there is a curve to the right of the pic. You would want more visability to see (if you were the tower operator) the trains coming through the curve (right) and the crossover (left). So it akes sense the way you have it.

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Elevated Gate Tower Orientation
Posted by Guy Papillon on Saturday, March 8, 2014 6:18 AM

I want to use an elevated gate tower at a grade crossing.  What is the the right orientation for the structure? The long side paralell to the tracks or the short side?

Guy

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