Hi All
I would like very much to ask a question to the more experienced modeller members
I am trying to figure out when [in terms of time period] was that the UP Alco rsc-2 [1280-1289] lost the original slogan SERVES ALL WEST / THE WAY OF THE STRIMLINER for the one newly introduced in 1959 from UP that read DEPENDABLE TRASPORTATION ?
the only pic I have is one of 1970 but I think it happened sometimes before that time can some one give me this information even with approximation ?
thanks very much in advance
stefano
Can anybody give me an approximate time period ?
thanks very much
You have the correct year, but when and if the RSC2's were relettered would require you to locate in service photos post 59 to guage a time frame. RSC2's were not first line power by this date, thus it seems logical that updating would be low on the priorty list.
Dave
I have seen photos of RSC2s with the 'Dependable Transportation' slogan dated 1967 or something but there must've been some of them that got the new slogan before this.
Like Dave said, it probably wasn't a priority for first-generation diesels. Some GP7s, GP9s still had the old slogans on them up until the late 1960s.
Thanks very much Upjake and Dave for the tips
I Have seen a pic of the rsc-2 UP with dependable transportation logo dated 1970 almost at the end of this loco career and a pic of the Alco s-2 switcher with the same logo in 1965
In terms of basics
is it accurate to have on my model trains lay -out a mix of RSC-2 Road switchers with the slogan SERVES THE ALL WEST and S-2 switchers of the UP with the latter DEPENDABLE TRANSPORTATION both running at the same time ? lets say around 1965 ?
thanks for your advice
Correction: the slogan "Serves all the West" was implemented in 1959, so yes you can mix, I was able to locate several post 1964 RSC2 photos, these were lettered on the cab sides Dependable transportation, so if i've got my math correct, at some undetermined date between 1959 and 1the mid sixties it would appear that serves all the west was dropped, I also noted the clean condition of these units as late as 1967. I do recommend that you lightly weather those displaying older slogans to impart a sense of age.
Excellent
thanks very much for all the help
regards to all
still on this issue today while looking at my UP fleet of switchers I noticed that the RSC-2 and the S-3 RS-1 and even a road switcher like the GP7 have a different yellow paint scheme from my other Atlas S-2/S-4
More specifically the locomotive with the slogan SERVES THE ALL WEST/THE ROAD OF THE STREAMLINER have a lighter UP yellow if compared to the more orange yellow of the Alco S-2/S-4 with the slogan DEPENDABLE TRANSPORTATION so my question is
when the UP change slogan and repainted the new slogan in the mid 1960' [starting of course in 1959]did they also change the armour yellow paint scheme in a darker shade of yellow ?
thanks very much for your guidance
Most likely it's just a difference based on the paint used by the model manufacturer. UP yellow has been the same since at least the introduction of their streamliners in the 1930's. Color matching from maker to maker isn't really a high priority in model railroading unfortunately. If you look at Walthers Great Northern Empire Builder cars, the orange used doesn't match Walthers' earlier GN passenger car orange. The non-EB cars have a lighter orange, even though all real GN cars in the streamliner colors used "Omaha Orange" and "Pullman Green" and should match each other.
I suspected it
thanks very much Stix
It is actually realistic for modeling purposes.. Long-term weathering can bleach out paint color appearance. For example, Pacific Fruit Express orange reefers would sometimes start to look yellow after time. Older UP diesels might look a tad lighter yellow than a freshly painted one.
Hi UPJake
thanks for your reply
its a very valid point you make