Forgive me a thousand times over for reviving a 10-year-old thread, but in case it comes up for others in search as it did for me...
Some (I don't know how many) of the D&RGW coaches were sold (used) to Penn Central and were renumbered into the 3100s:
http://rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc-co3165dca.jpg
Hope this helps some future Googler as it helped me.
Aaron
Many thanks to all of you who has given me so much information. I will take your advices.
If you model the PRR Keystone Crossings web site has a list of every passenger car available and if they are prototypical for the PRR. I realize this doesn't answer any question for the OP but someone may want this info.
Garry,
And there-in lies one of the techniques to matching models to prototype. You need to arm yourself with photo's of all the prototype cars and then car by car compare them to the available models and look for matches. I bought Jim Eagers Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment which shows all of Rio Grandes passenger cars - great resource. I suggest anyone trying to collect a roster of models matching the prototype get a book like that for their favorite RR. Morning Sun Books publishes many color guides like this.
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
Looking again at the first post, I see illinois Central was also mentioned. Referring to the same source, I see the Illinois Central had about 30 PS coaches. Here is a link to a photo of one of them which is now preserved at a railroad museum in Illinois.
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=125522
It looks much more like the Walthers model of the PS 64 seat PS coach than the model of a 52 seat PS coach. .
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
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As is true with many plastic passenger cars, they tend to only match one or two owners prototypes, and not much more. Walthers has produced a lot of individual passenger cars in D&RGW both lightweight and heavyweight and only the 52 seach P-S chair car seems to be a real match, the rest are just "filler" stock painted by Walthers to recoup their investment in the tooling and production. This is where you need to know your RR and "vett" (or background check) the rolling stock being produced IF matching the prototype is important to you. Currently there is very little plastic, for example, that matches anything D&RGW. AFAIK, just the subject of this post and the BLI CZ cars. The only other passenger cars I have that are a match to D&RGW are two brass P-S prospector cars.
I did buy two of the Walthers cars because they are one of very few examples of D&RGW in plastic I could find in HO.
Hello .... I have a reference book entitled "From Zephyr to Amtrak" which lists equipment for each railroad in the 1940-1970 era. ... The only lightweight passenger equipment listed for GM&O are cars made by ACF and not made by PS. GM&O purchased 11 coaches in 1948 numbered 3050 to 3060. ... The book does not specify the number of seats, and it has no photos of this coach. ... I think you might find photos of GM&O passenger trains on the internet to see if its coaches look similar to the model you mentioned.
The cars you're talking about are models of Pullman Standard plan 7600. Neither the Illinois Central nor the GM&O had coaches of this design. They may have had 52-seat coaches built by Pullman Standard, but they weren't built to this distinctive design.
The original owners of the cars were the C&O, D&RGW and the NKP. Of the paint schemes that Walthers has released, the following roads actually owned the plan 7600 (and nearly-identical plan 7600-A) 52-seat coaches:
ACL*Amtrak*C&OC&NWD&H*D&RGW*N&W*NKP*SALSP
* The NKP and D&RGW coaches of this design had their number boards in a different location from the Walthers model, which is based on the C&O's cars. The C&O's cars had their number boards above the truck opposite the vestibule end of the car. The NKP's and D&RGW's cars had their number boards centered on the side of the car.
The NKP's cars were later owned by ACL, N&W, and Amtrak. The D&RGW's cars were later owned by the D&H. Surplus C&O cars went to C&NW, SAL and SP.
Amtrak had both ex-C&O and ex-NKP coaches of this design.
-Fritz Milhaupt, Publications Editor, Pere Marquette Historical Society, Inc.http://www.pmhistsoc.org
Hello to everyone.
I'm searching for some information about the above mentioned Walthers H0 Pullman Standard 52 seat coach, particularly the Gulf, Mobile & Ohio (item 6776) and Illinois Central (item 6775) ones.
For example, I haven't found any REAL GM&O Pullman Standard 52-seat coach information in Internet, so, I wonder if GM&O ever owned this type of passenger car.
Many thanks for your helping.