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Prototype loco's to suit passenger cars.

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Posted by passengerfan on Friday, July 23, 2004 11:01 PM
The Santa Fe Walthers streamlined Super Chief Car would be most suitably be pulled by an A-B-B-A sets of EMD F7 diesels this is what the prototype was assigned.
As for heavyweight UP cars try a UP F-E-F class 4-8-4 or 4-8-2 or 4-6-2 Pacific all pulled heavyweights on the UP. I'm strictly talking prototype.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, July 23, 2004 9:16 AM
Walthers & Athearn are releasing a new A-B-B-A F7 set to go along with the Walthers Super Chief series of Budd cars, and are due out in September.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:02 PM
True, Santa Fe had only one DL109--and a matching DL110 "B" unit. That Lifelike choose the Santa Fe version of the DL109 for their model drives New Haven fans batty. Only 4 DL110s were built--the other three went to Southern--so the odds of it appearing in plastic are extremely remote. You could run it with an E "B"-unit, or a Proto 1000 Erie-Built "B" unit , or you could get a set of the Erie-Builts in Santa Fe, or possibly Proto 2000 E-units, or take fiverings's advice and get F7s.

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Posted by leighant on Friday, July 16, 2004 9:32 PM
I have seen a picture of Santa Fe DL-109 #50 with a E B-unit.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:45 PM
The best choice for Santa Fe locomotives with the Walthers Budd cars will be F7 diesels. They were used all over the railroad, on nearly all if not all of the road's passenger trains, from 1949 through the early Amtrak years of the early 1970s. Athearn (regular line) Athearn Genesis and Intermountain all make Santa Fe passenger F7s.

I wouldn't use a pair of DL109s if you want to be true to the prototype. Santa Fe only had one of these units (#50).

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Posted by nfmisso on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:47 AM
For ATSF Personnally, I would go with a BLI 4-8-4 or a LL P1K DL109 A-A set. But here are some other suitable choices:

The FM and Baldwin switchers were used to move the cars around the yards.

http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=Locomotive&scale=H&manu=&item=&keywords=Santa+Fe&instock=Q&split=300&Submit=Search

Intermountain Railway Company Walthers Mfg # 85
49005 Assembled Body Shell Only - EMD F7A Phase I -- Santa Fe "Warbonnet" HO 89.95 N
find it Unknown
69205 Assembled Body Shell Only - EMD F7A Phase II -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe HO TBA N TBA
490051 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7A Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Passenger "Warbonnet" (silver, red) HO 134.95 Y
490052 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7A Phase I Smart Dummy - Assembled -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe "Warbonnet" HO 94.95 N TBA
490211 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7A Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Santa Fe (Passenger "Yellowbonnet" silver w/yellow nose) HO 134.95 N Unknown
490221 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7A Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Santa Fe "Bluebonnet" (slver, blue, yellow stripes & nose herald) HO 134.95 N
find it Unknown
491051 Regal Line Diesel EMD F3A Phase II Powered, Decorated w/Drive - Assembled -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe "Warbonnet" HO 129.95 N TBA
491052 EMD F3A "Smart" Dummy - Assembled -- Santa Fe Warbonnet HO 94.95 N TBA
495051 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Santa Fe "Warbonnet" HO 124.95 N Unknown
495052 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Smart Dummy, Assembled -- Santa Fe "Warbonnet" HO 94.95 N Spec. Ord.
495211 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Santa Fe (Passenger "Yellowbonnet" silver w/yellow nose) HO 124.95 N
find it Spec. Ord.
495212 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Smart Dummy, Assembled -- Santa Fe (Passenger "Yellowbonnet" silver w/yellow nose) HO 94.95 N Spec. Ord.
495221 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Santa Fe "Bluebonnet" HO 124.95 N
find it Spec. Ord.
495222 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Smart Dummy, Assembled -- Santa Fe "Blue Bonnet" HO 94.95 N
find it Spec. Ord.
496051 Regal Line Diesel EMD F3B Phase II Powered, Assembled -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe "Warbonnet" HO 124.95 N TBA
496052 EMD F3B "Smart" Dummy - Assembled -- Santa Fe Warbonnet HO 89.95 N TBA

Athearn Inc Walthers Mfg # 140
3001 Diesel EMD F7A Dummy -- Santa Fe (Passenger "Warbonnet" silver, red, yellow, black) HO 26.50 Y Disc. when Sold Out
3002 Diesel EMD F7B Dummy -- Santa Fe Passenger (silver, red) HO 26.50 Y Disc. when Sold Out
3202 Diesel EMD F7B Powered "Super" w/Flywheel -- Santa Fe (Passenger "Warbonnet" silver, red, yellow, black) HO 39.50 Y Disc. when Sold Out

Athearn-Genesis Walthers Mfg # 141
99041 Diesel EMD F7A-B Set - Assembled - Santa Fe "Super Chief" -- Powered #47L (A Unit) & #47A (B Unit) "Passenger Warbonnet" Silver & Red HO 254.98 N 01-Sep-2004
99042 Diesel EMD F7A-B Set - Assembled - Santa Fe "Super Chief" -- Dummy #47C (A Unit) & #47B (B Unit) "Passenger Warbonnet" Silver & Red HO 199.98 N 01-Sep-2004

Atlas Model Railroad Co. Walthers Mfg # 150
9515 Diesel F-M H16-44 Powered w/Early "Loewy" Body & Cab, Sill-Mounted Handrails -- Santa Fe #2803 (black, silver Zebra Stripes) HO 149.95 N
find it Unknown
9516 Diesel F-M H16-44 Powered w/Early "Loewy" Body & Cab, Sill-Mounted Handrails -- Santa Fe #2804 (black, silver Zebra Stripes) HO 149.95 Y
9517 Diesel F-M H16-44 Powered -- Santa Fe - Painted (black, silver Zebra Stripes), No Unit Number HO 149.95 N
find it Sold Out
9554 Diesel F-M H16-44 Powered; Early "Loewy" Body & Cab w/Sill-Mounted Handrails -- Santa Fe #3007 (blue, yellow) HO 149.95 N 31-Jul-2004
9555 Diesel F-M H16-44 Powered; Early "Loewy" Body & Cab w/Sill-Mounted Handrails -- Santa Fe #3011 (blue, yellow) HO 149.95 N 31-Jul-2004
9556 Diesel F-M H16-44 Powered; Early "Loewy" Body & Cab w/Sill-Mounted Handrails -- Santa Fe (blue, yellow) HO 149.95 N 31-Jul-2004

Bachmann Industries Walthers Mfg # 160
60102 E-Z Command(R) Diesel EMD FT-A Powered w/DCC Decoder -- Santa Fe (silver, red) HO 43.00 N Summer
60202 E-Z Command(R) Diesel EMD FT-B Powered w/DCC Decoder -- Santa Fe (red, silver) HO 43.00 N Summer
64102 Diesel Fairbanks-Morse H16-44 w/Flywheels & 8-Wheel Drive; Powered -- Santa Fe ("Zebra Stripes" black, silver) HO 48.00 N TBA


Broadway Limited Imports Walthers Mfg # 187
45 Steam 4-8-4 Powered w/Sound & DCC - Decorated -- Santa Fe #3751 HO 329.99 N
find it Limited Run
46 Steam 4-8-4 Powered w/Sound & DCC - Decorated -- Santa Fe #3755 HO 329.99 Y Limited Run
47 Steam 4-8-4 Powered w/Sound & DCC - Decorated -- Santa Fe #3762 HO 329.99 Y Limited Run
401 Paragon Series Diesel F7A-B Set Powered Assembled w/Sound & DCC Limited-Run -- Santa Fe #37L/#37A (Passenger Warbonnet) HO 399.99 N Limited Run
402 Paragon Series Diesel F7A-B Set Powered Assembled w/Sound & DCC Limited-Run -- Santa Fe #37C/#37B (Passenger Warbonnet) HO 399.99 N Limited Run
403 Paragon Diesel F7A-B(Powered)-B(Dummy) Set Assembled w/Sound & DCC Limited-Run -- Santa Fe #327L/327A/327B (Passenger Warbonnet) HO 479.99 N Limited Run
441 Paragon Series Diesel E8A(Powered)-B(Dummy) w/Dynamic Brake Sound Limited-Run -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #81L/#81A HO 349.99 N Limited Run
442 Paragon Series Diesel EMD E8A Powered w/Dynamic Brake Sound Limited-Run -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #82L HO 259.99 N Limited Run
443 Paragon Series Diesel E8A(Powered)-B(Dummy) w/Dynamic Brake Sound Limited-Run -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #84L/#84A HO 349.99 N Limited Run
444 Paragon Series Diesel EMD E8A Powered w/Dynamic Brake Sound Limited-Run -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #83L HO 259.99 N Limited Run
764 Paragon Series(TM) Diesel EMD E6 A-B Set (A Pwrd/B Dummy) w/Quantum(TM) Sound -- Santa Fe #13L & 13A HO 329.00 N Limited Run
765 Paragon Series(TM) Diesel EMD E6 A-B Set (A Pwrd/B Dummy) w/Quantum(TM) Sound -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #15L & 15A HO 329.00 N Limited Run

International Hobby Corp Walthers Mfg # 348

950 Steam 4-8-2 Mountain Powered -- Santa Fe HO 104.98 N
find it Unknown
9500 Steam 2-8-0 Consolidation Powered -- Santa Fe HO 65.98 N
find it Unknown
9800 Steam 2-8-2 Mikado -- Santa Fe HO 88.98 Y
9850 Premier Series Steam Semi-Streamlined Pacific -- Santa Fe (Valley Flyer) #1369 HO 79.98 N Unknown
9901 Steam 4-6-2 Pacifics Powered -- Santa Fe HO 88.98 N
find it Unknown
23000 Steam 4-6-4 Hudson Powered -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #3456 HO 149.98 N
find it Unknown

Life-Like Products Inc Walthers Mfg # 433
8689 Diesel EMD F7A -- Santa Fe (silver, red) HO 36.00 Y
23787 PROTO 1000 Diesel F3 A&B Set Powered -- Santa Fe #200C & #20B HO 100.00 N
find it Sold Out
23788 PROTO 1000 Diesel F3 A&B Set Powered -- Santa Fe #201C & #201B HO 100.00 N
find it Sold Out
23887 PROTO 1000 Diesel F-M Erie-Built Powered A/B Set -- Santa Fe "Warbonnet" #90A & #90B HO 130.00 N
find it Sold Out
23888 Proto 1000 Diesel F-M Erie-Built Powered A -- Santa Fe "Warbonnet" 90L HO 65.00 N
find it Sold Out
30494 PROTO 2000 Diesel ALCO PA-PB Set - Powered, Assembled -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #59L & 59A ("Warbonnet") HO 200.00 N Sold Out
30495 PROTO 2000 Diesel ALCO PA-PB Set - Powered, Assembled -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #62L & 62A (War Bonnet) HO 200.00 N Sold Out
30581 PROTO 1000 Diesel ALCO DL-109 Powered -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #50 ("Warbonnet") HO 75.00 N
find it Sold Out
30794 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E8/9 A-B Set Powered -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #80L/80A ("Warbonnet") HO 190.00 N
find it Sold Out
30795 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E8/9 A-B Set Powered -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #83L/83A ("Warbonnet") HO 190.00 N
find it Sold Out
31183 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered w/Sound & DCC) & B (Dummy) -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #12 & 12A (red, silver "Warbonnet") HO 320.00 N Sold Out
31184 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered w/Sound & DCC) & B (Dummy) -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #15 & 15A (red, silver "Warbonnet") HO 320.00 N Sold Out
31185 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered) & B (Dummy) Set -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #12 & 12A (red, silver "Warbonnet") HO 220.00 N Sold Out
31186 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered) & B (Dummy) Set -- Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe #15 & 15A (red, silver "Warbonnet") HO 220.00 N Sold Out

Mantua Metal Products Walthers Mfg # 455
349001 Steam Powered 4-6-2 Metal Upgraded "Pacific" w/Long Haul Tender -- Santa Fe HO 119.99 N Unknown

Rivarossi Walthers Mfg # 635
5407 Steam 4-6-2 "Heavy Pacific" Powered -- Santa Fe #3423 HO 129.98 Y
5451 Steam 4-6-4 "Hudson" - Streamlined, Powered -- Santa Fe "Blue Goose" #3460 HO 229.98 N
find it Sold Out
6241 Diesel EMD E8A - 1 Each Powered & Dummy -- Santa Fe (silver & red w/yellow & black pinstriping & black lettering) HO 84.98 N
find it Sold Out


Stewart Hobbies Walthers Mfg # 691
4737 Diesel Baldwin VO-1000 Powered -- Santa Fe #2223 (Zebra Stripes) HO 115.00 Y
4804 Diesel Baldwin DS-4-4-1000 - Powered -- Santa Fe (Zebra Stripes) #2287 HO 115.00 N
find it Sold Out
5029 Diesel EMD FT A (Powered) B (Dummy) Set -- Santa Fe - Passenger (red, silver, yellow "Warbonnet") HO 185.00 N
find it Unknown
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Posted by nfmisso on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:45 AM
UP
Personnally, I would go with a BLI MT73 4-8-2 or a LL P1K FM Erie-Built A-A set. But here are some other suitable choices:

http://www.walthers.com/exec/search?category=Locomotive&scale=H&manu=&item=&keywords=Union+Pacific&instock=Q&split=300&Submit=Search

Intermountain Railway Company Walthers Mfg # 85
44003 EMD Diesel F7A Phase I Shell Kit -- Union Pacific (Armour Yellow & Harbor Mist Gray paint scheme) HO

74.95 Y Disc. when Sold Out
44503 EMD Diesel F7B Shell Kit -- Union Pacific HO 64.95 Y Disc. when Sold Out
49003 Assembled Body Shell Only - EMD F7A Phase I -- Union Pacific (Armour Yellow, Harbor Mist Gray, red

lettering) HO 84.95 N Spec. Ord.
69203 Assembled Body Shell Only - EMD F7A Phase II -- Union Pacific HO TBA N TBA
490031 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7A Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Union Pacific (yellow, gray, red lettering)

HO 129.95 N Spec. Ord.
490032 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7A Phase I Smart Dummy - Assembled -- Union Pacific HO 89.95 N TBA
491031 Regal Line Diesel EMD F3A Phase II Powered - Assembled -- Union Pacific HO 129.95 N TBA
495031 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Powered, Assembled -- Union Pacific HO 119.95 N Unknown
495032 Regal Line Diesel EMD F7B Phase I Smart Dummy, Assembled -- Union Pacific HO 89.95 N Unknown
496031 Regal Line Diesel EMD F3B Phase II Powered, Assembled -- Union Pacific HO 124.95 N TBA

Athearn Inc Walthers Mfg # 140
3213 Diesel EMD F7A Powered - Super w/Flywheel -- Union Pacific (yellow, gray, red) HO 39.50 Y Disc. when

Sold Out
3214 Diesel EMD F7B Powered "Super" w/Flywheel -- Union Pacific (yellow, gray, red) HO 39.50 Y Disc. when

Sold Out

Athearn-Genesis Walthers Mfg # 141
2606 Diesel EMD F3A-B Set Powered, Assembled -- Union Pacific #1449 & 1440 (Freight) HO 239.98 N
find it Sold Out

Atlas Model Railroad Co. Walthers Mfg # 150
9284 Diesel EMD SDP35 Powered -- Union Pacific #1402 (yellow, gray) HO 139.95 N
find it Sold Out
9285 Diesel EMD SDP35 Powered -- Union Pacific #1407 (yellow, gray) HO 139.95 N
find it Sold Out
9290 Diesel EMD SDP35 Powered -- Union Pacific #1403 (yellow, gray) HO 139.95 N
find it Sold Out
9291 Diesel EMD SDP35 Powered -- Union Pacific #1405 (yellow, gray) HO 139.95 N
find it Sold Out
9292 Diesel EMD SDP35 Powered -- Union Pacific; Painted (yellow, gray), No Unit Number HO 139.95 Y Disc.

when Sold Out
9509 Diesel F-M H15-44 Powered -- Union Pacific #1325 (yellow, gray, red) HO 149.95 Y Disc. when Sold Out

9510 Diesel F-M H15-44 Powered -- Union Pacific #1328 (yellow, gray, red) HO 149.95 N
find it Sold Out
9511 Diesel F-M H15-44 Powered -- Union Pacific - Painted (yellow gray, red), No Unit Number HO 149.95 N
find it Sold Out

Bachmann Industries Walthers Mfg # 160
11411 Steam 2-8-0 Baldwin Powered -- Union Pacific HO 140.00 N
find it 26-Jul-2004
81603 Spectrum 4-8-2 USRA Light Mountain Steam Powered -- Union Pacific HO 170.00 N
find it Sold Out
82303 Spectrum Steam Powered Baldwin 4-6-0 w/Tender - Low Boiler -- Union Pacific HO 175.00 Y

Broadway Limited Imports Walthers Mfg # 187
37 Steam MT-73 4-8-2 Powered w/Sound & DCC -- Union Pacific #7000 (black & Graphite) HO 329.99 N Limited

Run
38 Steam MT-73 4-8-2 Powered w/Sound & DCC -- Union Pacific #7002 (black & Graphite) HO 329.99 N Limited

Run
39 Steam MT-73 4-8-2 Powered w/Sound & DCC -- Union Pacific #7004 (2-Tone Gray w/Yellow Stripes) HO 329.99

N Limited Run
44 Steam MT-73 4-8-2 Powered w/Sound & DCC -- Union Pacific #7018 (2-Tone Gray w/Silver Stripes) HO 329.99

N Limited Run
113 Paragon Series(TM) Steam USRA Light 2-8-2 Powered w/Sound -- Union Pacific #2480 - Packaged For Operation

w/ or w/o Traction Tires HO 299.99 N Limited Run
114 Paragon Series(TM) Steam USRA Light 2-8-2 Powered w/Sound -- Union Pacific #2499 - Packaged For Operation

w/ or w/o Traction Tires HO 299.99 N Limited Run
427 Paragon Series Diesel F7A-B Set Powered Assembled w/Sound & DCC Limited-Run -- Union Pacific #1468/#1468B

HO 419.99 N Limited Run
428 Paragon Series Diesel F7B Powered Assembled w/Sound & DCC Limited-Run -- Union Pacific #1468C HO 209.99

N Limited Run
463 Paragon Series Diesel EMD E8A Powered w/Dynamic Brake Sound Limited-Run -- Union Pacific #929 w/Snow

Shields HO 274.99 N Limited Run
464 Paragon Series Diesel EMD E8A Powered w/Dynamic Brake Sound Limited-Run -- Union Pacific #930 w/Snow

Shields HO 274.99 N Limited Run
601 Diesel EMD E7A Powered w/Sound & DCC - Limited Run -- Union Pacific #907A HO 225.00 N
find it Sold Out
602 Diesel EMD E7A Powered w/Sound & DCC - Limited Run -- Union Pacific #927A HO 225.00 N
find it Unknown
668 EMD Diesel E7B Dummy - Limited Run -- Union Pacific #908B HO 79.99 N
find it Unknown
669 EMD Diesel E7B Dummy - Limited Run -- Union Pacific #928B HO 79.99 N
find it Sold Out
676 EMD Diesel E7B Powered - Limited Run - Assembled w/Quantum Sound -- Union Pacific #908B HO 199.99 Y

677 EMD Diesel E7B Powered - Limited Run - Assembled w/Quantum Sound -- Union Pacific #928B HO 199.99 N
find it Sold Out
723 Diesel EMD E7A-B-B Set (A&B Powered, B Dummy) w/Sound & DCC - Limited Run -- Union Pacific #LA-7, LA-8,

LA-9 HO 504.99 Y
724 Diesel EMD E7A-B-B Set (A&B Powered, B Dummy) w/Sound & DCC - Limited Run -- Union Pacific #SF-7, SF-8,

SF-9 HO 504.99 Y
782 Paragon Series(TM) Diesel EMD E6 A-A Powered/Powered w/Quantum(TM) Sound -- Union Pacific #7-M-1 & #7-M-2

HO 499.99 N Limited Run
783 Paragon Series(TM) Diesel EMD E6 A-B-B Pwrd/Pwrd/Dummy w/Quantum(TM) Sound -- Union Pacific #SF-4, SF-5 &

SF-6 HO 549.99 N Limited Run
784 Paragon Series(TM) Diesel EMD E6 A-B-B Pwrd/Pwrd/Dummy w/Quantum(TM) Sound -- Union Pacific #LA-4, LA-5 &

LA-6 HO 549.99 N Limited Run

International Hobby Corp Walthers Mfg # 348
988 Steam 4-8-2 Mountain Type "C" Powered -- Union Pacific #7000 (Rectangular Tender) HO 104.98 N TBA
995 Steam 4-8-2 Mountain Type "C" Powered -- Union Pacific Overland #700 (Rectangular Tender) HO 104.98 N

TBA
9539 Steam 2-8-0 Consolidation Powered -- Union Pacific #6045 HO 65.98 N
find it Unknown
9811 Steam 2-8-2 Mikado -- Union Pacific HO 88.98 N
find it Unknown
9863 Premier Series Steam Semi-Streamlined Pacific -- Union Pacific #206 HO 79.98 Y

Life-Like Products Inc Walthers Mfg # 433

23798 PROTO 1000 Diesel F3 A&B Set Powered -- Union Pacific #1403 & #1404B HO 100.00 N
find it Sold Out
23897 PROTO 1000 Diesel F-M Erie-Built Powered A-B Set -- Union Pacific #704 & #704B (yellow, gray, red &

black lettering) HO 130.00 N
find it Sold Out
23898 PROTO 1000 Diesel F-M Erie-Built Powered A-B Set -- Union Pacific #706 & #706B (yellow, gray, red &

black lettering) HO 130.00 N
find it Sold Out
23899 PROTO 1000 Diesel F-M Erie-Built Powered Single A Unit -- Union Pacific #705 (yellow, gray, red & black

lettering) HO 65.00 Y Disc. when Sold Out
30824 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E8/9A-B Set Powered w/Working Mars Light -- Union Pacific #932 & #934B (yellow,

gray) HO 190.00 N
find it Sold Out
30825 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E8/9A-B Set Powered w/Working Mars Light -- Union Pacific #954 & #973B (yellow,

gray) HO 190.00 N
find it Sold Out
30961 PROTO 2000 Diesel ALCO PA-PB Set Both Powered - Assembled -- Union Pacific #602/604B (yellow & gray)

HO 200.00 N
find it Sold Out
30962 PROTO 2000 Diesel ALCO PA-PB Set Both Powered - Assembled -- Union Pacific #607/607B (yellow & gray)

HO 200.00 N
find it Sold Out
31211 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered w/Sound & DCC) & B (Dummy) Set -- Union Pacific #994 & 985B (yellow,

gray) HO 320.00 N Sold Out
31212 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered w/Sound & DCC) & B (Dummy) Set -- Union Pacific #997 & 985C (yellow,

gray) HO 320.00 N Sold Out
31213 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered) & B (Dummy) Set -- Union Pacific #955A & 925B (yellow, gray) HO

220.00 N Sold Out
31214 Proto 2000 Diesel EMD E6A (Powered) & B (Dummy) Set -- Union Pacific #957A & 926B (yellow, gray) HO

220.00 N Sold Out

Marklin, Inc Walthers Mfg # 441
22594 Steam 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Powered (Trix) -- Union Pacific HO 649.95 N
find it Sold Out
22599 Trix Steam 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Powered DCC Ready w/Sound, RP-25 Wheels -- Union Pacific w/Universal

Decoder HO 879.00 Y
22805 Diesel ALCO PA A-A Set Powered w/Decoder -- Union Pacific HO 598.00 Y
T22803 Trix - Steam 2-8-2 Mikado w/RP-25 Wheels, Sound & DCC -- Union Pacific #2494 HO 595.00 Y

Mantua Metal Products Walthers Mfg # 455
340001 Steam Powered 4-6-2 Metal Upgraded "Pacific" w/Vanderbilt Tender -- Union Pacific - Grey Goose HO

124.99 N Unknown

Rivarossi Walthers Mfg # 635
5412 Steam 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Powered w/Tender -- Union Pacific #4000 (silver, black) HO 319.98 N
find it Sold Out
5455 Steam 4-6-6-4 Challenger Powered w/Oil Tender -- Union Pacific #3985 HO 289.98 N
find it Sold Out
5456 Steam 4-6-6-4 Challenger Powered w/Oil Tender -- Union Pacific #3716 HO 289.98 N
find it Sold Out
5457 Steam 4-6-6-4 Challenger Powered w/Oil Tender -- Union Pacific #3978 (Two-Tone Gray passenger scheme)

HO 289.98 N
find it Sold Out
5470 Steam 4-8-4 "Northern"- UP Class FEF-3 - Powered, Revised -- Union Pacific #843 (1946-50s Two-Tone Gray

w/yellow striping, lettering) HO 234.98 Y
5471 Steam 4-8-4 "Northern"- UP Class FEF-3 - Powered, Revised -- Union Pacific #844 (Excursion Scheme -

black & light graphite) HO 234.98 Y
5472 Steam 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Powered -- Union Pacific #4023 - New Engine Number (black, graphite) Limited-Run

HO 350.00 N
find it Sold Out
5473 Steam 4-8-4 "Northern"- UP Class FEF-3 - Powered, Revised -- Union Pacific #840 (1950s Scheme; black,

dark graphite) HO 234.98 Y
6244 Diesel EMD E8A - 1 Each Powered & Dummy -- Union Pacific (yellow & gray w/red lettering) HO 84.98 N
find it Sold Out
54418 Steam 4-8-8-4 "Big Boy" Powered w/Tender - Digital -- Union Pacific #4011 Silver & Black HO 319.98 N
find it Sold Out


Stewart Hobbies Walthers Mfg # 691
5916 Diesel EMD F9 A (Powered) & B (Dummy) Set -- Union Pacific (Single Headlight) HO 150.00 N
find it Unknown

Walthers Trainline Walthers Mfg # 931
203 Trainline(R) Diesel FA-1 Powered -- Union Pacific #1500A HO 34.98 N
find it 02-Oct-2004
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Posted by dknelson on Thursday, July 15, 2004 8:37 AM
Heavyweight steel cars were mostly built from the end of the wood car era, say about 1910, to the streamlined car era, around the time of WWII. And since passenger cars have a useful life of about 40 years, some of them ran into the 1960s. I suspect there were some heavy weight baggage cars right to the Amtrak era. Some survived in work train service longer than that.
So early years would be steam -- such as 4-6-2s, 4-8-2, 4-8-4s, -- then early diesels, then F and E units, and perhaps some steam generator equipped GP7s or 9s.
The UP really liked streamlined cars for their name trains from the 1930s but I cannot say what lesser trains or mail runs might have used heavyweight cars into the E8/E9 era. Probably at least a few.
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Prototype loco's to suit passenger cars.
Posted by dazzar on Thursday, July 15, 2004 2:23 AM
I see Walthers are releasing HO heavyweight passenger cars, ready to run.
I am considering a set of UP when released.
What prototype loco would suit these cars?
Also the HO Walthers budd passenger cars in ATSF, what loco could be recommended for these cars?

Thanks in advance.

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