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Cab interior of early diesels?

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Cab interior of early diesels?
Posted by Ray Dunakin on Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:28 PM

I'm still working on my narrow gauge RS-3 kitbash, and at this stage I'm adding some details to the interior of the cab. Trouble is, good pics or drawings of such are hard to come by. So far I have several views of the engineer's side, mostly showing the control stand. But I have found very little info about the fireman's side of the cab. In a few pics of the engineer's side, I can get just a glimpse of parts of the fireman's side in the background, and it looks pretty sparse. 

Can anyone give me some idea of what, if anything, is on the fireman's side of the cab in an RS-3 or other early diesel? 

 

 

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Posted by Flashwave on Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:53 PM

Fireman (Brakeman) gets a seat. Maybe 2 for the lucky soul who may have to ride with them. He might also get a windshield wiper handle if manually done, (The F7 I know well is) and perhaps an Ebrake.

That, would be about it.

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Posted by BRAKIE on Monday, November 15, 2010 10:17 AM

The fireman's seat was like the engineer's a stool looking thing with a back rest.

The brakeman's  seat folded down from the rear cab wall and was very uncomfortable.Think of a seat with a thin cushion and no back rest.Most head brakeman would opt out for a seat in the training unit and would more then likely face backwards looking over the train.

Actually both wipers would work when the engineer turned them on.There was a e-brake in case of emergencies.

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Posted by wabash2800 on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:32 PM

Maybe if your'e real lucky an internet search might turn up one at a musuem or tourist RR and it would be within a drive? If you're REAL LUCKY... Off the top of my head I think there are a pair at Scranton PA at Steam Town.

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Posted by NeO6874 on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 2:46 PM

Have an RS3 that I'm assisting on restoring. 

 

The Fireman's seat is longer than a normal chair, almost like a bench.  The seat itself is hinged, and opens up into a storage bin, overall it's maybe about 3' long x 24" wide x about that high (never measured it... I was the lucky one in the engine compartment tracing wires Wink). I don't remember there being a seat for a brakeman (though this loco served in a quarry, so the purchaser might've opted out on that).

Unfortunately I'm not gonna be down @ the roundhouse for a while (joys of doing contractor work), but once the weather breaks and we can pull it back out of the roundhouse I'll try to remember to snap a few pictures.

 

 

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Posted by BerkshireSteam on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 5:22 PM

NeO6874

Have an RS3 that I'm assisting on restoring. 

 

The Fireman's seat is longer than a normal chair, almost like a bench.  The seat itself is hinged, and opens up into a storage bin, overall it's maybe about 3' long x 24" wide x about that high (never measured it... I was the lucky one in the engine compartment tracing wires Wink). I don't remember there being a seat for a brakeman (though this loco served in a quarry, so the purchaser might've opted out on that).

Unfortunately I'm not gonna be down @ the roundhouse for a while (joys of doing contractor work), but once the weather breaks and we can pull it back out of the roundhouse I'll try to remember to snap a few pictures.

 

 

Sounds like the seat on the fireman's side of the ex-SP S6 at National Railroad Museum. They're kind of disappointing me, they seem to be buying up all the old S series they can and painting them all in GBW just because that's where we are. I love the GB&W, but honestly I would rather see that S6 in old SP colors rather than doctored up to look like the S2's GBW actually had.

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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Tuesday, November 16, 2010 6:59 PM

NeO6874

Unfortunately I'm not gonna be down @ the roundhouse for a while (joys of doing contractor work), but once the weather breaks and we can pull it back out of the roundhouse I'll try to remember to snap a few pictures.

 

Thanks. If you could also get some good pics of the controls too, I'd appreciate it. I may or may not be able to use them on this build since I'm nearly done with the cab interior, but they would still be useful for future models.

I probably could have arranged to get some RS-3 pics when I was in Ely, NV back in August, but didn't think of it at the time, and I've been kicking myself ever since.

 

 

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Posted by Ray Dunakin on Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:01 AM

I've finished the cab interior details and thought some of you might be interested in how it turned out. The scale is 1/24th -- I'm trying to kitbash a 1/29th scale Aristocraft loco into a fictional narrow gauge Alco in 1/24th scale..

I didn't bother trying to include every single detail of the prototype. I just wanted to include enough of the major features, enough to give the impression that it's all there. As it is, much of what I did include will be difficult to see anyway.

The interior assembly slides up into the cab from below. The floor was made to look like old wood with worn paint, as seen in some of the RS-3 pics I found:

 

 

 

 

 

On the fireman's side, I added a toolbox and grease bucket. These were cast from molds I made of originals I found on ebay. Everything else in the cab is scratch-built. The toolbox and bucket help support the end panels:

 

 

 

Oops! I made the seats a little bit too tall. Fortunately that's easy to fix. The seats are not glued down, they are secured with screws. I'll just remove them, cut the seats off the posts, shorten the posts, and glue the seats back together.

 

 

BTW, the seated figure is from SLM, and will be serving as the engineer until I get around to sculpting some custom figures for this loco.

 

 

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Posted by NeO6874 on Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:13 AM

looks great Big Smile only thing missing is the trap door in the floor to get at the relays (it'd be just about right under the toolbox)

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