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Posted by Enzo Fortuna on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:45 AM

>Hello there...Nobody in Frisco will answer??

..... As "old" sentence" says.....

"May you boil in oil/ and fry in Crisco,/ If you ever call San Francisco "Frisco"

Cheers

Enzo Fortuna

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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, March 2, 2008 11:30 PM
 cuyama wrote:

Bill Kaufman wrote an excellent article on the State Belt RR (renamed the San Francisco Belt in 1969 when the city and county took over the RR) in the April, 2007 Railroad Model Craftsman. This included a description of his roughly 12'X13' HO layout based on the line. Service on the State Belt ended in 1993, according to Bill's article, when Kyle Railways' contract to operate the line ended.

[I don't live in San Francisco, but apparently the locals don't like it when the city is called "frisco" ... go figure.]

Byron
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Probably because some wag would call BART "Frisco Area Rapid Transit". Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

SF denizens simply refer to San Francisco as "The City".

Andre

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Posted by peterjenkinson1956 on Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:00 AM
i have seen photos of the flying scotsman at fishermans wharf   would be good to see some video of it...  peter
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Posted by ndbprr on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:09 PM
Is that the stretch that Alan Peglar ran the Flying Scotsman from England and went belly up?
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Posted by CFournier on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:54 PM

Any idea on how to represent San Francisco on a back drop behind the SFBelt RR ?

Any sources on the internet for pics of older San Francisco buildings that I could print and use as flats or background ?

Chris

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Posted by rfross on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:24 PM

Back in 1980 I lived in an apartment in San Francisco on North Pointe Street near Fisherman's Wharf. Tracks ran down the middle of North Pointe street and every once in a while a switcher went by with a cylindrical hopper or two. I don't recall what industry they serviced, though.

But what I do remember the most about it is that tracks embedded in a concrete street reverberate through a building with a concrete foundation when a locomotive and cars go by. Ordinarily watching a train go by right outside my window wouldn't be a bad thing. But back then I was in my mid-twenties and I frequently hit my friendly neighborhood bar. Closing out the bar and having a train come through in the early morning hours is not a good combination!

Modeling the Ballard Terminal Railroad (a former Northern Pacific line) in Ballard, a district north of downtown Seattle in 1968, on a two-rail O-scale shelf switching layout. The Ballard Terminal didn't exist in 1968 but my version of the BTRR is using NP power. (My avatar photo was taken by Doc Wightman of Seattle)
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Posted by peterjenkinson1956 on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 8:27 PM

thanks for the reply fellas   i did some research and found out that the line was closed...

i checked out google maps and i was able to locate the  old round house   you can still see the roundhouse but not much else

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Posted by cuyama on Monday, February 25, 2008 10:01 PM
 CFournier wrote:

I think there was a plan for a layout that was published in MRR way back...anybody knows in what year and month of MRR?

That would be April, 1980, as noted in the original post.

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Posted by cuyama on Monday, February 25, 2008 9:48 PM

Bill Kaufman wrote an excellent article on the State Belt RR (renamed the San Francisco Belt in 1969 when the city and county took over the RR) in the April, 2007 Railroad Model Craftsman. This included a description of his roughly 12'X13' HO layout based on the line. Service on the State Belt ended in 1993, according to Bill's article, when Kyle Railways' contract to operate the line ended.

[I don't live in San Francisco, but apparently the locals don't like it when the city is called "frisco" ... go figure.]

Byron
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Posted by joseph2 on Monday, February 25, 2008 2:42 PM
I believe there was an article on it in RMC a year or two ago.
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Posted by CFournier on Monday, February 25, 2008 9:14 AM

Hi,

 I think there was a plan for a layout that was published in MRR way back...anybody knows in what year and month of MRR?

Chris

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Posted by desertdog on Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:44 AM

I am not in San Francisco, but to answer your question, the line was abandoned in 1993. 

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Posted by CFournier on Thursday, February 21, 2008 1:37 PM

Hello there...

Nobody in Frisco will answer??

BTW Atlas has a new SFbeltRR Black Alco S-2 out but it is impossible for my LHS to get one Sign - Dots [#dots]...

Chris

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belt line
Posted by peterjenkinson1956 on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:23 PM
back in april 1980    the  model railroader had an article regarding the ...   san francisco belt line rr     this line ran along the water front to the presidio...  does any of this line remain in service  if no longer in use when did it close down   peter

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