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Herzog hopper cars with small panels on top

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Herzog hopper cars with small panels on top
Posted by dh28473 on Sunday, August 1, 2021 9:08 AM

Are these panels on each top end of the cars solar panels for FRED?

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Posted by caldreamer on Sunday, August 1, 2021 9:42 AM

I believe thay supply power to operate the dumping mechanism.

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Posted by 7j43k on Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:07 AM
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Posted by dh28473 on Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:29 AM

Yes i thinkso thats what they are for the dumping mechanism

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Posted by dehusman on Sunday, August 1, 2021 12:48 PM

They power a GPS mechanism for determining where the train is and operating the dump doors on the train.  Sometimes called a "satellite train".  It doesn't need a MoW crew to dump ballast.  It is just routed along and the train slows down in the dump areas and automatically dumps the ballast in the assigned area.  Normally a MofW employee follows the train and monitors its dumping operation.

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Posted by Overmod on Sunday, August 1, 2021 1:35 PM

The dump itself (and return of the body) would be done with air; only the valves and GPS run off the battery.  The panel appears similar to that used for solar-powered remote-control driveway gates...

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Posted by zugmann on Monday, August 2, 2021 8:47 AM

Overmod
The dump itself (and return of the body) would be done with air; only the valves and GPS run off the battery.  The panel appears similar to that used for solar-powered remote-control driveway gates...

https://www.herzog.com/innovation/ballast-unloading-machine-for-new-track-construction/

Looks like they're hydraulic (accordign to the above).  When I handled Herzog trains, there was never a 2nd air line between cars like our air dumps - just an electrical connection (and one of the hoppers had a generator installed in it). 

  

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Posted by Overmod on Monday, August 2, 2021 9:56 AM

That's interesting, and I think sensible if close control over the dump angle is desired (as on dump trucks).  The 'key' is the generator, which I hadn't seen.

Thanks for the correct information.

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Posted by dh28473 on Tuesday, August 3, 2021 6:49 PM

Thankyou everyone for all the great information 

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