There is a slit window in the shed next to the water tower. Why is it a slit and not just a regular window, any reason? Looks like an arrowslit in a castle.
Brent
"All of the world's problems are the result of the difference between how we think and how the world works."
Ventillation? IDK!
Why is there a window in the water tank up where the tank would be? Did enclosed water tanks have a walkway around the tank between it and the outer structure?
oldline1
Good questions, I asked over at the Canadian Pacific FB page about the inside of these things. Wouldn't be surprised if we get pics and/or plans as they are a wealth of info.
Ask and ye will receive. FB pages are a gold mine. Apparently, the answer is yes there was a walkway around the tank. Plans provided.
BATMANWhy is it a slit and not just a regular window, any reason?
Well, this comes to mind...
It sure would make it easy to shove a ladder through there and up into the rafters? There's times when I'm trying to put a ladder away in my "tool shed" when I could sure use a door/window like that.
Humm...
Regards, Ed
Is that shed the pump house? and is the well is inside? Those plans are interesting. I liked to see the rest of it.
And if it is a well house, is the plumbing to the tank underground? After all, these wood structures were built around the tank for heat, right?, and if some of the plumbing was above ground, that slit could have been where the piping went through?
Mike.
EDIT: I can't enlarge Brent's picture, as it ask me to join ImgBB first.
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Here is another angle. Ed, good guess on the slit.
Mike, I'll PM the plans to you and maybe you can blow them up then. It holds 40,000 Imp Gals.
mbinsewiEDIT: I can't enlarge Brent's picture, as it ask me to join ImgBB first.
Same here
CPR_Tank_Drake-St by Edmund, on Flickr
Nice to see all the hardware still intact on Brent's water tank, including the "ball" water level indicator which seems to be a feature of Canadian tanks.
Cheers, Ed
Mike, here you can just see a tank in behind. I think there may have been more than one IIRC. It's been 15 years, time for another visit. I wonder how those other tanks didn't freeze?
Thanks Brent, the plan enlarges pretty good, I could read the size of the rebar used in the foundation, which is a pretty involved structure in it's self.
There's still more to the right that is cut off, probably more foundation details.
And there is a plank walkway just below the window, acces by a ladder.
Thanks for explaining the ball thing Ed. I never thought!
I suppose the rail ROW is now a trail?
Ed, that tank must be the big brother of the one in my pic. I PM'd the pic to you as well, let me know if you can blow it up.
mbinsewiI suppose the rail ROW is now a trail?
Part of the Kettle Valley bike trail. Go to Brookemere B.C. on Google Earth and you can see where the RH was.
Google Earth would only let me down to about 3,000 feet.
Here are some decent photos on Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Brookmere%20Water%20Tower
Yes, Brent. Thanks, the peek at the plans for the #4 enclosed tower look nice
One page plans are in the September 1972 M-R for a #1 tank Kanamodel Products made a kit of these.
I really enjoy doing this kind of railway archeology. By the looks of things, our "window" is actually a chunk of timber nailed to the outside wall!
BROOKMERE AND THE REMAINS OF A KETTLE VALLEY WATER TOWER, BC. by Patty Michaud, on Flickr
...and in better days!
Okanagan Express, 1983 (photo No.7 of 10) : Brookmere by CLIFF BANCROFT, on Flickr
Indiana Ed strikes again! Good work Ed. Apparently, this site is full of CPR plans.
http://www.cptracks.ca/cpdocs/main.asp?fbclid=IwAR1zdSQMomELOeqTM3bOuBQ8XcUr9D_6guyufyTPfVA6pO9iGg7zEOv0nLE
I will have to sign up.
BATMANApparently, this site is full of CPR plans.
YOU hit a home run there, Brent! Sign up is immediate. I came across that site once before but it may have been down, I was getting a 404 or 507, something.
Just in five minutes of browsing I found more plans and documents (and some for the NYCRR )
Excellent find! Thank you,
Ed
Wow you guys, excellent! I just bookmarked it, for signing up later today.
I guess the mystery "window" has been solved.
My question remains, is that a well house? They had to fill these somehow. Maybe I'll learn more once I get into that site, and maybe I'll find the right half of Brent's plans
Here we see a young fireman trying to explain to the old engineer that they didn't need to stop for water and the boss is coming to see why the train has stopped.
What colour flag is that on the front?
Wow! That CPHA sight is sure taking up a lot of my time. Who knew about the revolving ladder on the water tower, haulage charts, and plans on how to install a steam whistle on certain locomotives. I don't think I will buy another kit, as this site takes all the guesswork out of scratch building.
Edit; The Stoney Creek bridge has a 2.042 downgrade to the East, I guess I am going to have to rebuild my layout.
I had been asking on FB if the tank inside was steel or staves and it appears that the tanks were staved. Here is another C.P. plan.
Nice plan, shows the foundation in cross section. Excellent.
I guess I'm going to have to get into that site! I want more ! More! I say! Give me MORE!
I'll just go look for myself.
BATMANWhat colour flag is that on the front?
Blue.
http://trn.trains.com/railroads/abcs-of-railroading/2006/05/blue-flags
BATMANWho knew about the revolving ladder on the water tower,
Tichy did [then I learned from that ]
Tichy-7012 by Edmund, on Flickr
The dashed line on the track diagram shows a 1590' WSP (buried Wrought Steel Pipe) heading toward the water source. Google maps doesn't show much in the way of streams nearby but the pump house was located at the well or creek.
The track plan also shows (difficult to read) 12 x 11.1 E. Side Section House. I'll bet this is the building we see today and it was moved closer to the water tank for "preservation" probably when the track removal was done.
Google maps show a creek about 170 metres away from where the pipe starts at the WT. The creek makes a turn a heads up the hill where the pipe would intersect. Maybe they ran the pipe up the hill parallel to, or in the creek another 300+ metres.
Good eyes noticing the pipe Ed, is there anything you don't know?
Wait a minute here!
BATMANThe creek makes a turn a heads up the hill where the pipe would intersect.
So you Canadians make creeks run up hill, hey?
mbinsewiSo you Canadians make creeks run up hill, hey?
Yeah, the creek runs up the hill. The water IN the creek runs down the hill.
Now try to figure out why the Aussie's water spins in the opposite direction when they pull the plug in the basin!
BATMANGood eyes noticing the pipe Ed, is there anything you don't know?
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, Brent I do enjoy a mystery, though
gmpullmanThe water IN the creek runs down the hill.
OOOOOOOOOOOH, and here I thought it was a Canadian thing
Yes! And once you guys South of the border switch over to metric and start using the proper maps, your creeks will run in the proper direction as well.
(ha ha) Going back to the topic, I don't know how cold it gets in that area, but in Eastern Canada, a pipe going down to a well is a lot easier to manage. Taking water from a stream makes things complicated in winter. Unless that place is in solid rock...
Simon
I thinkin the same, Simon. A web site about the CP was in an earlier post, and it is supposedly packed full of info.
I have yet to jump into it, Brent says it's great.
Maybe I'll find an answer to my question about filling these towers.
snjroy (ha ha) Going back to the topic, I don't know how cold it gets in that area, but in Eastern Canada, a pipe going down to a well is a lot easier to manage. Taking water from a stream makes things complicated in winter. Unless that place is in solid rock... Simon
Simon, I think they would employ a pump well near the WT in concert with running a pipe up the hill into the creek. It would freeze up at times but for only a few days at a time there. If Ed is correct about the length of the pipe, that would carry it far enough up the hill that gravity would do the job as far as moving the water.