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The What Is That Thing And Why Is That Like That Thread
Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 12:16 PM

There is a slit window in the shed next to the water tower. Why is it a slit and not just a regular window, any reason? Looks like an arrowslit in a castle.

  

 

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Posted by oldline1 on Monday, February 25, 2019 5:29 PM

Ventillation? IDK!

Why is there a window in the water tank up where the tank would be? Did enclosed water tanks have a walkway around the tank between it and the outer structure?

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 8:06 PM

Good questions, I asked over at the Canadian Pacific FB page about the inside of these things. Wouldn't be surprised if we get pics and/or plans as they are a wealth of info.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 9:15 PM

Ask and ye will receive. FB pages are a gold mine. Apparently, the answer is yes there was a walkway around the tank. Plans provided.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, February 25, 2019 9:33 PM

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Why is it a slit and not just a regular window, any reason?

Well, this comes to mind...

It sure would make it easy to shove a ladder through there and up into the rafters? There's times when I'm trying to put a ladder away in my "tool shed" when I could sure use a door/window like that.

Humm... Confused

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, February 25, 2019 9:41 PM

Is that shed the pump house? and is the well is inside?  Those plans are interesting.  I liked to see the rest of it.

And if it is a well house, is the plumbing to the tank underground?  After all, these wood structures were built around the tank for heat, right?, and if some of the plumbing was above ground, that slit could have been where the piping went through?

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 9:56 PM

Here is another angle. Ed, good guess on the slit.Laugh

  

Mike, I'll PM the plans to you and maybe you can blow them up then. It holds 40,000 Imp Gals.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, February 25, 2019 10:08 PM

mbinsewi
EDIT: I can't enlarge Brent's picture, as it ask me to join ImgBB first.

Same here Sad

 CPR_Tank_Drake-St by Edmund, on Flickr

Nice to see all the hardware still intact on Brent's water tank, including the "ball" water level indicator which seems to be a feature of Canadian tanks.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 10:15 PM

Mike, here you can just see a tank in behind. I think there may have been more than one IIRC. It's been 15 years, time for another visit. I wonder how those other tanks didn't freeze?

  

 

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, February 25, 2019 10:17 PM

Thanks Brent, the plan enlarges pretty good, I could read the size of the rebar used in the foundation, which is a pretty involved structure in it's self.

There's still more to the right that is cut off, probably more foundation details.

And there is a plank walkway just below the window, acces by a ladder.

Thanks for explaining the ball thing Ed.  I never thought!

I suppose the rail ROW is now a trail?

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 10:19 PM

Ed, that tank must be the big brother of the one in my pic. I PM'd the pic to you as well, let me know if you can blow it up.

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Posted by BATMAN on Monday, February 25, 2019 10:21 PM

mbinsewi
I suppose the rail ROW is now a trail?

Part of the Kettle Valley bike trail. Go to Brookemere B.C. on Google Earth and you can see where the RH was.

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, February 25, 2019 11:17 PM

Google Earth would only let me down to about 3,000 feet.

Here are some decent photos on Flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Brookmere%20Water%20Tower

 Yes, Brent. Thanks, the peek at the plans for the #4 enclosed tower look nice Yes

One page plans are in the September 1972 M-R for a #1 tank Smile Kanamodel Products made a kit of these.

I really enjoy doing this kind of railway archeology. By the looks of things, our "window" is actually a chunk of timber nailed to the outside wall!

 BROOKMERE AND THE REMAINS OF A KETTLE VALLEY WATER TOWER,  BC. by Patty Michaud, on Flickr

 

...and in better days!

 Okanagan Express, 1983 (photo No.7 of 10) : Brookmere by CLIFF BANCROFT, on Flickr

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:32 AM

Indiana Ed strikes again! Good work Ed. Apparently, this site is full of CPR plans.

http://www.cptracks.ca/cpdocs/main.asp?fbclid=IwAR1zdSQMomELOeqTM3bOuBQ8XcUr9D_6guyufyTPfVA6pO9iGg7zEOv0nLE 

I will have to sign up.

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:47 AM

BATMAN
Apparently, this site is full of CPR plans.

YOU hit a home run there, Brent! Sign up is immediate. I came across that site once before but it may have been down, I was getting a 404 or 507, something.

Just in five minutes of browsing I found more plans and documents (and some for the NYCRR Smile

Excellent find! Thank you,

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 6:43 AM

Wow you guys, excellent!  I just bookmarked it, for signing up later today.

I guess the mystery "window" has been solved.

My question remains, is that a well house?  They had to fill these somehow. Maybe I'll learn more once I get into that site, and maybe I'll find the right half of Brent's plans

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:40 AM

Here we see a young fireman trying to explain to the old engineer that they didn't need to stop for water and the boss is coming to see why the train has stopped.

What colour flag is that on the front?

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:48 AM

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:22 AM

Wow! That CPHA sight is sure taking up a lot of my time. Who knew about the revolving ladder on the water tower, haulage charts, and plans on how to install a steam whistle on certain locomotives. I don't think I will buy another kit, as this site takes all the guesswork out of scratch building.

Edit; The Stoney Creek bridge has a 2.042 downgrade to the East, I guess I am going to have to rebuild my layout.Laugh

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:49 AM

I had been asking on FB if the tank inside was steel or staves and it appears that the tanks were staved. Here is another C.P. plan.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:05 PM

Nice plan, shows the foundation in cross section. Excellent.

I guess I'm going to have to get into that site!  I want more !  More! I say!  Give me MORE!  Pirate

I'll just go look for myself. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 4:38 PM

BATMAN
What colour flag is that on the front?

Blue.

http://trn.trains.com/railroads/abcs-of-railroading/2006/05/blue-flags

 

BATMAN
Who knew about the revolving ladder on the water tower,

Tichy did [then I learned from that Cool

 Tichy-7012 by Edmund, on Flickr

The dashed line on the track diagram shows a 1590' WSP (buried Wrought Steel Pipe) heading toward the water source. Google maps doesn't show much in the way of streams nearby but the pump house was located at the well or creek.

The track plan also shows (difficult to read) 12 x 11.1 E. Side Section House. I'll bet this is the building we see today and it was moved closer to the water tank for "preservation" probably when the track removal was done.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 11:53 PM

Google maps show a creek about 170 metres away from where the pipe starts at the WT. The creek makes a turn a heads up the hill where the pipe would intersect. Maybe they ran the pipe up the hill parallel to, or in the creek another 300+ metres.

Good eyes noticing the pipe Ed, is there anything you don't know?Laugh

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:43 AM

Wait a minute here! 

BATMAN
The creek makes a turn a heads up the hill where the pipe would intersect.

So you Canadians make creeks run up hill, hey? Pirate

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, February 28, 2019 7:52 AM

mbinsewi
So you Canadians make creeks run up hill, hey?

Yeah, the creek runs up the hill. The water IN the creek runs down the hill.

Now try to figure out why the Aussie's water spins in the opposite direction when they pull the plug in the basin!

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Good eyes noticing the pipe Ed, is there anything you don't know?

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, Brent Wink  I do enjoy a mystery, though Cool

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:12 AM

gmpullman
The water IN the creek runs down the hill.

OOOOOOOOOOOH, and here I thought it was a Canadian thing  Surprise  Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:30 AM

mbinsewi
So you Canadians make creeks run up hill, hey?

Yes! And once you guys South of the border switch over to metric and start using the proper maps, your creeks will run in the proper direction as well.Laugh

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Posted by snjroy on Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:28 PM

(ha ha) Going back to the topic, I don't know how cold it gets in that area, but in Eastern Canada, a pipe going down to a well is a lot easier to manage. Taking water from a stream makes things complicated in winter. Unless that place is in solid rock...

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Posted by mbinsewi on Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:34 PM

I thinkin the same, Simon.  A web site about the CP was in an earlier post, and it is supposedly packed full of info.

I have yet to jump into it, Brent says it's great.

Maybe I'll find an answer to my question about filling these towers.

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:43 PM

snjroy

(ha ha) Going back to the topic, I don't know how cold it gets in that area, but in Eastern Canada, a pipe going down to a well is a lot easier to manage. Taking water from a stream makes things complicated in winter. Unless that place is in solid rock...

Simon

 

Simon, I think they would employ a pump well near the WT in concert with running a pipe up the hill into the creek. It would freeze up at times but for only a few days at a time there. If Ed is correct about the length of the pipe, that would carry it far enough up the hill that gravity would do the job as far as moving the water.

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