QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste . . . . I believe there should be some education here on how a foundry operates so modelers can build a realistic foundry. Larry
Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb
Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop.
Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern.
QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste So why is it that nobody seems to know how to model a foundry? You can't just plant a building with a clear story and stick a smokestack next to it and call it a foundry. Fact is, most all foundries don't even have smokestacks. The most common furnace is the cupola or vertical shaft furnace. They are varied and easy to model and extend out and above the roof of the foundry. Old foundries have open top cupolas and newer ones have a closeable cap and downcomer pipe to a bag house. The bag house is also easy to model. They need a constant supply of coke and scrap iron on steel brought in by rail, so a well modeled foundry is fun to operate. I believe there should be some education here on how a foundry operates so modelers can build a realistic foundry. Larry
Originally posted by exPalaceDog Originally posted by LTGeiste Don't forget that foundries recieve molding sand. And maybe lumber for patterns. ]I must build a sand drier building. My foundry is getting bigger ! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:57 PM Originally posted by jrbarney Originally posted by LTGeiste . . .If you have a lot of knowledge about foundries, you could start a mini-tutorial as a new thread. Bob NMRA Life 0543 I must give this some thought. Thanks bob Reply Edit Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:01 PM actually, if anyone wants detailed information about the American Car & Foundry buildings in St. Charles, Mo; my father used to work there, and is always going into great detail about the production operations there, along with the structural details..I'm sure I can get him to provide whatever help he can in modeling this industry, he was in his late teen's and early 20's at the time, and seems rather fond of the memories he has of his time there... please email me with any requests...no matter how specific I'll see what I can do Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:09 PM Almost forgot[#wstupid] if anyone is interested in seeing an 'operating' iron processing plant...the Science Center in Pittsburgh, ( literally around the corner from 3-rivers stadium, also, the one with the WW2 Diesel submarine docked outside), had at one time, an HO scale layout, the structures resemble a set the was released several years ago as part of the Walthers Cornerstone line, I believe..kinda burnt-rusty colored..etc..well, they had it done up..even had liquid slag running through the troughs..as well as automated unloading of ore, and loading of finished iron stock..but the last time I was there was 9 years ago..so call ahead to see if they still have the layout Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:13 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I have suggested that the Walthers blast furnace makes a better cupola furnace in a foundry than a blast furnace and replicates very well what you want to do if you can find one at this point. It is a bit small for a blast furnace but early furnaces were. It would make a good modern cupola if it wasn't for that peculiar blast furnace shape. Most small foundries have cupolas that are about 5 to 6 feet in diameter. That's outside diameter. The East Broad Top railroad had such a cupola in their foundry. Larry Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:15 PM Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry Reply Edit dragonriversteel Member sinceMay 2005 1,037 posts Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop. Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
Originally posted by LTGeiste Don't forget that foundries recieve molding sand. And maybe lumber for patterns. ]I must build a sand drier building. My foundry is getting bigger ! Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:57 PM Originally posted by jrbarney Originally posted by LTGeiste . . .If you have a lot of knowledge about foundries, you could start a mini-tutorial as a new thread. Bob NMRA Life 0543 I must give this some thought. Thanks bob Reply Edit Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:01 PM actually, if anyone wants detailed information about the American Car & Foundry buildings in St. Charles, Mo; my father used to work there, and is always going into great detail about the production operations there, along with the structural details..I'm sure I can get him to provide whatever help he can in modeling this industry, he was in his late teen's and early 20's at the time, and seems rather fond of the memories he has of his time there... please email me with any requests...no matter how specific I'll see what I can do Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:09 PM Almost forgot[#wstupid] if anyone is interested in seeing an 'operating' iron processing plant...the Science Center in Pittsburgh, ( literally around the corner from 3-rivers stadium, also, the one with the WW2 Diesel submarine docked outside), had at one time, an HO scale layout, the structures resemble a set the was released several years ago as part of the Walthers Cornerstone line, I believe..kinda burnt-rusty colored..etc..well, they had it done up..even had liquid slag running through the troughs..as well as automated unloading of ore, and loading of finished iron stock..but the last time I was there was 9 years ago..so call ahead to see if they still have the layout Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:13 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I have suggested that the Walthers blast furnace makes a better cupola furnace in a foundry than a blast furnace and replicates very well what you want to do if you can find one at this point. It is a bit small for a blast furnace but early furnaces were. It would make a good modern cupola if it wasn't for that peculiar blast furnace shape. Most small foundries have cupolas that are about 5 to 6 feet in diameter. That's outside diameter. The East Broad Top railroad had such a cupola in their foundry. Larry Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:15 PM Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry Reply Edit dragonriversteel Member sinceMay 2005 1,037 posts Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop. Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
Originally posted by jrbarney Originally posted by LTGeiste . . .If you have a lot of knowledge about foundries, you could start a mini-tutorial as a new thread. Bob NMRA Life 0543 I must give this some thought. Thanks bob Reply Edit Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:01 PM actually, if anyone wants detailed information about the American Car & Foundry buildings in St. Charles, Mo; my father used to work there, and is always going into great detail about the production operations there, along with the structural details..I'm sure I can get him to provide whatever help he can in modeling this industry, he was in his late teen's and early 20's at the time, and seems rather fond of the memories he has of his time there... please email me with any requests...no matter how specific I'll see what I can do Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:09 PM Almost forgot[#wstupid] if anyone is interested in seeing an 'operating' iron processing plant...the Science Center in Pittsburgh, ( literally around the corner from 3-rivers stadium, also, the one with the WW2 Diesel submarine docked outside), had at one time, an HO scale layout, the structures resemble a set the was released several years ago as part of the Walthers Cornerstone line, I believe..kinda burnt-rusty colored..etc..well, they had it done up..even had liquid slag running through the troughs..as well as automated unloading of ore, and loading of finished iron stock..but the last time I was there was 9 years ago..so call ahead to see if they still have the layout Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:13 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I have suggested that the Walthers blast furnace makes a better cupola furnace in a foundry than a blast furnace and replicates very well what you want to do if you can find one at this point. It is a bit small for a blast furnace but early furnaces were. It would make a good modern cupola if it wasn't for that peculiar blast furnace shape. Most small foundries have cupolas that are about 5 to 6 feet in diameter. That's outside diameter. The East Broad Top railroad had such a cupola in their foundry. Larry Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:15 PM Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry Reply Edit dragonriversteel Member sinceMay 2005 1,037 posts Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop. Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
Originally posted by LTGeiste . . .If you have a lot of knowledge about foundries, you could start a mini-tutorial as a new thread. Bob NMRA Life 0543 I must give this some thought. Thanks bob Reply Edit Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:01 PM actually, if anyone wants detailed information about the American Car & Foundry buildings in St. Charles, Mo; my father used to work there, and is always going into great detail about the production operations there, along with the structural details..I'm sure I can get him to provide whatever help he can in modeling this industry, he was in his late teen's and early 20's at the time, and seems rather fond of the memories he has of his time there... please email me with any requests...no matter how specific I'll see what I can do Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Cthetrains Member sinceDecember 2002 From: US 89 posts Posted by Cthetrains on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:09 PM Almost forgot[#wstupid] if anyone is interested in seeing an 'operating' iron processing plant...the Science Center in Pittsburgh, ( literally around the corner from 3-rivers stadium, also, the one with the WW2 Diesel submarine docked outside), had at one time, an HO scale layout, the structures resemble a set the was released several years ago as part of the Walthers Cornerstone line, I believe..kinda burnt-rusty colored..etc..well, they had it done up..even had liquid slag running through the troughs..as well as automated unloading of ore, and loading of finished iron stock..but the last time I was there was 9 years ago..so call ahead to see if they still have the layout Cory "Ruler of nothing, respected by none, HEARD BY ALL, guaranteed!!!!!" Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:13 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I have suggested that the Walthers blast furnace makes a better cupola furnace in a foundry than a blast furnace and replicates very well what you want to do if you can find one at this point. It is a bit small for a blast furnace but early furnaces were. It would make a good modern cupola if it wasn't for that peculiar blast furnace shape. Most small foundries have cupolas that are about 5 to 6 feet in diameter. That's outside diameter. The East Broad Top railroad had such a cupola in their foundry. Larry Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:15 PM Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry Reply Edit dragonriversteel Member sinceMay 2005 1,037 posts Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop. Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
QUOTE: Originally posted by ndbprr I have suggested that the Walthers blast furnace makes a better cupola furnace in a foundry than a blast furnace and replicates very well what you want to do if you can find one at this point.
Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry Reply Edit dragonriversteel Member sinceMay 2005 1,037 posts Posted by dragonriversteel on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 5:39 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop. Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
QUOTE: Originally posted by LTGeiste Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop. Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern. Reply Subscriber & Member Login Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more! Login Register Users Online There are no community member online Search the Community ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT ADVERTISEMENT Model Railroader Newsletter See all Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox! Sign up
Originally posted by dragonriversteel Hello Larry, Shoot me an E-mail and we 'll talk more... Patrick Beaufort,SC Dragon River Steel Corp {DRSC} Making HO scale steel by the ton!!!! Patrick, how can I contact you? Larry, Click on my profile and then e-mail. Oppps I thought I had it working at one time,but it works now. Patrick Larry