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Posted by oleirish on Sunday, November 20, 2005 11:56 AM
Ok gang I'll though one at you?I'am getting reday to put a small second layer to my little railroad I want to go from O to 3"s in six feet is this do'able?? and what grade will this be???[:)][?][:)]
JIM
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Posted by Texas Zepher on Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:41 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by oleirish
I want to go from O to 3"s in six feet is this do'able?? and what grade will this be


The grade is easy.
6 feet = 72 inches
3 inches / 72 inches = .0417
.0417 * 100 = 4.17% grade.

A bit steep but definitely do'able.
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Posted by selector on Sunday, November 20, 2005 3:12 PM
Doesn't get much easier than Tex's answer. I agree that the grade is "doable", but it isn't great. If you're stuck with it, you're stuck with it. If you can get one more foot out of that ramp, you and your locos will be happier with the grade reduction.

By the way, this is not so that you can cross a train over itself, is it? You will need 3.5" between the rail tops below to the lowest item above it. You still have trackbed and track to lay above that lowest point, so your grade will be that much worse.
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Posted by howmus on Sunday, November 20, 2005 4:31 PM
4.17% ??? That is a mighty hefty grade. You might get the loco and a couple of cars up it. The prototypes tried their best to stay under 2% whenever possible. Even a 2% grade will cut down the number of cars an engine can pull severely. I would try your best to find another solution than to put in a 4% or greater grade.

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by dragonriversteel on Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:32 PM
Hope you have a geared Shay locomotive for that grade.[:)]


Patrick

Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb

Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop.

Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern.

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Posted by SteelMonsters on Sunday, November 20, 2005 5:50 PM
I went up a 6% grade with a swicher and had to get off and push.

This was 7 1/4 inch gauge though. :)
-Marc
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Posted by oleirish on Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:45 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dragonriversteel

Hope you have a geared Shay locomotive for that grade.[:)]


Patrick

Yup I've got two geared shays,they should get-er done thanks gang!!
JIM[:)]
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Posted by nedthomas on Monday, November 21, 2005 1:44 PM
Remember you have to transition into and out of the grade so your 6' may be more like 5' making the grade 5% or greater. A straight line grade between two points is as stated above.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 21, 2005 2:59 PM
4% is steep.

Try to find 1-3 more feet to your grade.. or even try to downgrade the other track so you wont have to climb as high as fast.

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