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Need scenery advice
Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:30 PM
I'm trying to put in grass for the first time - I'm using diluted Elmer's glue - but when I spray it on the table, it doesn't come out even. It drips and puts big spots of glue down, so when I sprinkle the grass on it, it only sticks to certain places. I've tried adjusting the spray nozzle, but nothing seems to work. Is there a way to spray the glue evenly? A different glue perhaps?
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Posted by 2021 on Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:39 PM
There's a couple of ways. You can put down a brown paint base and sprinkle the grass while it's still wet (probably the most common way) or you can "paint" on a 50-50 mix of white glue and water with a brush and the sprinkle the grass on that. Both work equally well. Don't spray as that tends to move everything around. You can drizzle the glue carefully and let it run into the grass. Good luck.
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Posted by bogp40 on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:10 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by 2021

There's a couple of ways. You can put down a brown paint base and sprinkle the grass while it's still wet (probably the most common way) or you can "paint" on a 50-50 mix of white glue and water with a brush and the sprinkle the grass on that. Both work equally well. Don't spray as that tends to move everything around. You can drizzle the glue carefully and let it run into the grass. Good luck.
Ron K.


Since I color the last/ top coat of plaster, I paint the glue mixture on then scenic. Before applying glue , mist to wet the area- this gives more working time so the glue won't dry too quickly. The first application of ground foam is the easiest, subsequent applications had always given me trouble. The 50/50 would never spray only spit and dribble and start to make a mess. I have found that WS scenery cement or dilluted matte medium is better suited for this. It sprays well dries flat. Add alcohol mix to the wet water, mist the already sceniced area add the ground foam, lightly wet down again and set with scenery glue either sprayed or drizled on w/ dropper or applicator. This method works great when setting additional weeds, clumps- bushes etc.
Don't worry if the greens turn torquois/ off colored will dry just fin. Just be careful not to wet as to having runs/ unless you want a washout effect.
Alcohol can also be used to dillute the matte medium along w/ water. Like always, you need to experiment to find the method that works best for you.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:32 AM
What are you referring to when you mention dilluted matte medium? Is that something you can buy, or is it mixed from glue/water/alcohol?

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Posted by bogp40 on Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:46 AM
Flounder,
Acylic matte medium is nothing more than fancy thinned white glue. This can be found at craft stores like Michael's. Woodland scenics cement is basically the same. I use thinned white Elmer's for the larger or base coats and WS or the matte medium on the rest. I have played with the various amounts of alcohol and some will use all to thin I perfer 25water, 25 alcohol and 50% glue [for a 50/50 mix]. For wet water: I only add about 25% alcohol to cold water and still add a couple drops of detergent. I f you shake it to foaming - don't use until settles or you may have added too much detergent.
Bob K.

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Posted by cheese3 on Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:29 PM
I use paint. Get an earth color, put it on, while it is still fresh sprinkle the ground foam on.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 25, 2005 11:22 AM
It would seem that you would get ground foam into your brush if you do it in small sections. I have used sprayed on diluted matte medium for both appling fine ballast to flat roofs as well as painted hard shell.

Larry

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