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Bridge Arguement
Posted by topcopdoc on Sunday, February 27, 2005 4:30 PM
On my Pennsy HO layout I have four bridges crossing a 200-foot scale river. The first double track truss bridge is approximately 47 feet above the water. In order to meet track on the other side I reduced the grade 1” from one side of the bridge to the other. My wife said all bridges are always built level and never have a grade. Can anyone settle this argument?
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Posted by Javern on Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:44 PM
I agree with wife [:D]
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Posted by DSchmitt on Sunday, February 27, 2005 6:32 PM
See this thread

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=-1&TOPIC_ID=31352&REPLY_ID=312132#312132

I tried to sell my two cents worth, but no one would give me a plug nickel for it.

I don't have a leg to stand on.

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Posted by twhite on Sunday, February 27, 2005 11:55 PM
Tell wife that out here in the Sierra Nevada, the bridges conform to whatever grade the track is on. There's a viaduct on the Siskiyou line in southern Oregon (just over the california border) that is on a 3.5% grade! Most of the bridges on the ex-SP Donner Pass line over the Sierras are on about a 2-2.4% grade, and the west approach to the Carquinez Straits Bridge near Oakland, CA, is on about a 1.5%. The bridges on the ex WP Feather River route are all on a 1% grade. You don't halt a grade just to cross a river, otherwise you're going to have Hell to pay trying to make up that grade on the other side. I've got four bridges on my Yuba Pass Sub that are on a 2.4% grade, and my projected large curve viaduct is going to be on a 2.2%. It happens all the time, both in models and certainly in real life. At least out here in the mountains.
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Posted by selector on Monday, February 28, 2005 12:37 PM
Lots of graded bridges in BC. Both the CPR and CNR (heck, even the Esquimalt & Nanaimo and the BC Railroad) had few clean lines across rivers in the various mountain ranges. When you think about it, rivers wouldn't flow if THEY didn't have a grade!
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Posted by topcopdoc on Tuesday, March 1, 2005 12:24 PM
Thanks a lot for all the information showing that bridges can have a grade and proving my wife was wrong. It has been quite a learning experience for both of us. My wife learned a whole lot of details about bridges and I learned how uncomfortable the couch is.
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Posted by TBat55 on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 5:02 AM
Drainage is better with a slight grade; wouldn't want too much snow and ice on a bridge.

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Posted by MAbruce on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 6:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by topcopdoc

My wife learned a whole lot of details about bridges and I learned how uncomfortable the couch is.


Can't say I've ever been sent to the couch over something like that! [(-D]

So what happens when you start talking about ballast color? [:P][;)]

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