QUOTE: Originally posted by ukguy hmmmm, ok then csx try this one, yesterday at winndixie(grocerystore) I found an air conditioner filter similar I thought to the one used to make the pine trees. It said natural air filter the same but the fibres inside were diferent to the walmart ones, it was kind of like WS polyfibre but it was blue and slightly heavier. anyway I bought it, I thought $5 for a 1"x20"x30" piece of polyfibre sure is cheaper than the LHS. I treated it the same as polyfibre, pulled, stretched and thinned it out then draped it over a twig from one of those little hedge type bushes, the ones every neighbourhood has, the twigs are very detailed. Once the fibre is on the 'trunk' spray brown, then grey sprinkle on WS coarse turf and presto....dense foliaged tree. Foliage can be shaped pior to painting for desired shape by pulling and trimming and the correct colour WS coarse turf can be found for a maple colour. I got 95 pine trees from one sheet of the other filter, and this stuff appears to go almost twice as far, so prob $10 for 150 trees. I'd post a pic right now but the wife left my digital cam in her mothers car earlier. let me know if you want to see it. Be safe and have fun Karl.