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strengthening supertree trunks in N scale

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strengthening supertree trunks in N scale
Posted by CanadaDavid on Wednesday, June 28, 2023 1:41 PM

I've made some nice trees.  I drilled holes and poked them in.  Very nice.

But they're so fragile.  I did have them soaked in matte media, for a long time, before building them.

The 'trunks' are so small.  I'm trying to figure out how to bulk them up a bit.  I did buy some fine piano wire, but getting it up those fine trunks looks really hard.

Any ideas?  I was wondering about laying a strand or two of piano wire beside the trunk.  Then somehow attaching them.  But how do I disguise them and make it look real?

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, June 28, 2023 3:16 PM

Taking a total guess here, but perhaps adding toothpicks to the back of the trees (where no one can see) or putting them on a stand?  Just two ideas.  Here's hoping others have better ideas.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, June 28, 2023 5:52 PM

CanadaDavid
I was wondering about laying a strand or two of piano wire beside the trunk. Then somehow attaching them. But how do I disguise them and make it look real?

I remember seeing someone painting the trunks with latex.  That wouldn't strengthen them unless you added piano wire.

Ron's Trains N Things just had a Youtube about pine trees.  I think he preferred 20 ga florist wire.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, June 28, 2023 7:45 PM

I used that method for my layout.  It really looked realistic and relatively inexpensive.  The nice thing with the opproach is you can reuse many of the items--foam, wire, and twine--for future trees. I like it's quite easy to make too.

 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, June 29, 2023 1:47 PM

CanadaDavid
I was wondering about laying a strand or two of piano wire beside the trunk. Then somehow attaching them. But how do I disguise them and make it look real?

Don't use piano wire, as it's too stiff to be wrapped around the existing trunk.

I'd suggest mixing-up a fairly stiff batch of Durabond 90, then dip the existing trunk into it and set it aside for a couple of hours.
You can add detail to the trunk using a not-too-stiff metal brush, then slap-on some suitably coloured paint. 

Wayne

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, June 29, 2023 2:00 PM

Paint this stuff on them, it will address both your concerns.

Brent

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Posted by kasskaboose on Saturday, July 1, 2023 4:15 PM

Never heard of it, so had to poke around.  Found a vid explaining how used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFHYwuR7GXs

And where to purchase: https://www.amazon.com/Environmental-Technology-Builder-Liquid-Rubber/dp/B001E1XBLO

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, July 1, 2023 5:01 PM

stinkin 403 errors

Kasskaboose latex is also good for DIY rock molds using either Hydrocal or Permascene.  A layer or two of latex.  Gauze- latex- gauze - latex - latex.  This scene was made entirely with Permascene and molds

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Posted by kasskaboose on Saturday, July 1, 2023 9:04 PM

Nice work Henry.

I used Plaster-of-Paris (POP) to make rocks in moulds.  Whatever works!

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