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Electical, Lighting and Flooring for New Train Room

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Electical, Lighting and Flooring for New Train Room
Posted by Late for Work on Tuesday, May 2, 2023 4:11 PM

I have been blessed with the opportunity to build a room for nothing but trains over the garage. The contractor will do anything I want, so I am looking for suggestions as to wiring, lighting, flooring, insulation or anything else that I should include in the plan so that all I need to worry about is the layout. Thank you in advance for your suggestions.

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, May 2, 2023 4:45 PM

There are several previous threads here about electrical and lighting. I'll post a link when I come across them.

There aren't as many regarding flooring. My personal choice is carpet tile which I found sold in boxes of random pieces for less than a dollar per square foot.

 Carpet Tile by Edmund, on Flickr

It is easy to put down and trim around obstructions. In my case I could lift the leg of the layout benchwork and slide a piece of tile under the leg. If a piece gets damaged simply lift it out and replace it.

For me it was an ideal choice and I did the whole layout area for a couple hundred dollars.

 Carpet Tile by Edmund, on Flickr

It is still being sold for about the same price I paid in 2016:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMaster-Versatile-Assorted-Residential-Commercial-24-in-x-24-Peel-and-Stick-Carpet-Tile-10-Tiles-Case-40-sq-ft-NCVT002/204594243

There are certainly other suppliers or if you want a matched look there are solid patterns available at a higher cost.

Here's a thread on lighting:

https://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/286677.aspx

 I favor a suspended ceiling using Genesis lay-in ceiling panels and a combination of recessed can spot lights with track lighting in most areas. For general room lighting I use lay-in troffer flat panel LEDs. These can be turned off so that only the dimmable spot lights and track lighting is used for 'running sessions'.

Regards, Ed

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Posted by NScale4x8 on Tuesday, May 2, 2023 5:55 PM

Whatever floor you put down, put some old carpet or a drop cloth over the floor while you work on the layout. Paint, plaster, heavy things falling, and scraping will damage a floor and be both expensive and a hassle to repair.

I currently have a cement basement floor covered by old carpet remnants from when I re-carpeted part of my house decades ago. My plan is to roll up the carpet and throw it away once the layout is "done" which may be never ;) In the mean time, I don't worry about splashes or glue drips or paint...

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Irrespective of layout rooms, I like the ceramic products that come in the shape of wide floor boards. I prefer the ones that are shades of gray over ones that look like wood, but that's just my aesthetic sensibility. I like things to look like what they are.

I currently have hickory laminate (engineered) wood floors throughout the main level of my home. Hickory is a very hard hardwood, and it has worn well with teenagers and dogs. I think it looks nice too. I ended up with Hickory even though I ordered oak. The flooring store called me back and said they had a truck load of hickory that a customer ordered but didn't pay for. They hadn't placed my order for oak with the distributor yet and offered me a deal to switch my order to hickory. I looked at samples, OKed the deal, and have not regretted it.  

 

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, May 2, 2023 11:17 PM
Even though I live in a temperate maritime climate, I’m a big fan of insulation, underfloor, in the walls and most importantly, ceiling.
My 2 CentsCheers, the Bear.Smile

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Posted by rrebell on Wednesday, May 3, 2023 10:06 AM

Lots of insulation. Its a train room and there will be a mess so I like a basic floor. Lighting, I like track lighting as I can change it around and mix tempatures off your LED bulbs and intencity, like needing a 100 watt equivilent over a 60 watt one in a corner or needing to change something as the plan changed. All you need for electric is an outlet. If you want to spend money you can use smart bulbs even but I use standard LED one and out here anyway they run $1 or less. As far as wiring, lots of outlets, some like a master switch.

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, May 3, 2023 10:15 AM

rrebell
As far as wiring, lots of outlets, some like a master switch.

I'll second this.

While you have the chance with open walls, put in more outlets than you think you will ever need.  Have several circuits.

If you leave it up to a builder, they will put the outlets about 12 feet apart (code).  I think you will be happier to have them half that distance.

You may also want several outlets in the ceiling.  You never know if you will need to use a tool that you don't want the cord being dragged across the layout from a wall outlet.

York1 John       

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:31 AM

I installed a plastic-based laminate flooring for my basement train room. It's very tough, doesn't mold if it gets damp, and doesnt swell or discolor if it gets water on it. 

It's also pretty easy to install, and not overly expensive.

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Posted by kasskaboose on Wednesday, May 3, 2023 3:19 PM

For lighting, you can never have enough!

For flooring, I too had cement painted over.  To update the room a bit, bought interlocking gym mat flooring.  It is very durable, quiet, and won't do damage to my legs and back when older.  I

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Posted by Lost in A2 on Thursday, May 4, 2023 6:55 AM

York1

 

 
rrebell
As far as wiring, lots of outlets, some like a master switch.

 

I'll second this.

While you have the chance with open walls, put in more outlets than you think you will ever need.  Have several circuits.

If you leave it up to a builder, they will put the outlets about 12 feet apart (code).  I think you will be happier to have them half that distance.

You may also want several outlets in the ceiling.  You never know if you will need to use a tool that you don't want the cord being dragged across the layout from a wall outlet.

 



I would also suggest going with 20 amp circuits instead of 15. You never know what the future might bring. 

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:19 PM

Thank you,  appreciate the link and the information

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:19 PM

Thank you

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:21 PM

Even though I live in a temperate maritime climate, I’m a big fan of insulation, underfloor, in the walls and most importantly, ceiling.
My 2 CentsCheers, the Bear.Smile
 

Thanks

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:23 PM

gmpullman

There are several previous threads here about electrical and lighting. I'll post a link when I come across them.

There aren't as many regarding flooring. My personal choice is carpet tile which I found sold in boxes of random pieces for less than a dollar per square foot.

 Carpet Tile by Edmund, on Flickr

It is easy to put down and trim around obstructions. In my case I could lift the leg of the layout benchwork and slide a piece of tile under the leg. If a piece gets damaged simply lift it out and replace it.

For me it was an ideal choice and I did the whole layout area for a couple hundred dollars.

 Carpet Tile by Edmund, on Flickr

It is still being sold for about the same price I paid in 2016:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/TrafficMaster-Versatile-Assorted-Residential-Commercial-24-in-x-24-Peel-and-Stick-Carpet-Tile-10-Tiles-Case-40-sq-ft-NCVT002/204594243

There are certainly other suppliers or if you want a matched look there are solid patterns available at a higher cost.

Here's a thread on lighting:

https://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/286677.aspx

 I favor a suspended ceiling using Genesis lay-in ceiling panels and a combination of recessed can spot lights with track lighting in most areas. For general room lighting I use lay-in troffer flat panel LEDs. These can be turned off so that only the dimmable spot lights and track lighting is used for 'running sessions'.

Regards, Ed

 

Thank you,  appreciate the link and the information

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:24 PM

NScale4x8

Whatever floor you put down, put some old carpet or a drop cloth over the floor while you work on the layout. Paint, plaster, heavy things falling, and scraping will damage a floor and be both expensive and a hassle to repair.

I currently have a cement basement floor covered by old carpet remnants from when I re-carpeted part of my house decades ago. My plan is to roll up the carpet and throw it away once the layout is "done" which may be never ;) In the mean time, I don't worry about splashes or glue drips or paint...

-------------

Irrespective of layout rooms, I like the ceramic products that come in the shape of wide floor boards. I prefer the ones hat are shades of gray over ones that look like wood, but that's just my aesthetic sensibility. I like things to look like what they are.

I currently have hickory laminate (engineered) wood floors throughout the main level of my home. Hickory is a very hard hardwood, and it has worn well with teenagers and dogs. I think it looks nice too. I ended up with Hickory even though I ordered oak. The flooring store called me back and said they had a truck load of hickory that a customer ordered but didn't pay for. They hadn't placed my order for oak with the distributor yet and offered me a deal to switch my order to hickory. I looked at samples, OKed the deal, and have not regretted it.  

 

 

Thank you

 

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:25 PM

rrebell

Lots of insulation. Its a train room and there will be a mess so I like a basic floor. Lighting, I like track lighting as I can change it around and mix tempatures off your LED bulbs and intencity, like needing a 100 watt equivilent over a 60 watt one in a corner or needing to change something as the plan changed. All you need for electric is an outlet. If you want to spend money you can use smart bulbs even but I use standard LED one and out here anyway they run $1 or less. As far as wiring, lots of outlets, some like a master switch.

 

Thanks

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Posted by Late for Work on Sunday, May 14, 2023 6:26 PM

Lost in A2

 

 
York1

 

 
rrebell
As far as wiring, lots of outlets, some like a master switch.

 

I'll second this.

While you have the chance with open walls, put in more outlets than you think you will ever need.  Have several circuits.

If you leave it up to a builder, they will put the outlets about 12 feet apart (code).  I think you will be happier to have them half that distance.

You may also want several outlets in the ceiling.  You never know if you will need to use a tool that you don't want the cord being dragged across the layout from a wall outlet.

 

 

 



 

I would also suggest going with 20 amp circuits instead of 15. You never know what the future might bring. 

 

Thank you, all

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Posted by York1 on Sunday, May 14, 2023 7:06 PM

I hope you can take some photos during construction and let us see how things are going.

Speaking for myself, I love seeing photos much more than wordy descriptions.  I think most of the forum members would love to see the progress on the room, and when the time comes, your new layout!

Have fun!

York1 John       

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