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Do I need DCC?

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Do I need DCC?
Posted by sailor38 on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:29 PM
I have a 4X8 HO layout. I am somewhat "technologically challenged" (to put it delicately) and the idea of DCC is scary. Not only that, but, do I really need it for a layout that small and compact? What advantages are there? From what little I know about it, there are two aspects I would find desirable:
- Sound (that would enhance my enjoyment)
- The ability to run two trains - more importantly, the ability to have a loco sitting idle, say on a spur, while another is operating, without having to isolate the track with an on/off switch (can do with DCC?)

Also, how much should I expect to pay to get started? Just talking about a fairly vanilla capability. Some of my locos are DCC ready.

I'm not sure this is the best forum for that question, but, c'mon you gurus, chime in with your advice/opinions, please.

Many, many thanks for all your help! [D)]
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Thursday, January 20, 2005 12:29 AM
MRC Prodigy Advance is what I'm thinking of getting. The only real advantage I see for small layouts is the sound capability. Cost with discounts is about $200 plus cost of decoders - sound adds to the price so these could get expensive.
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Paul
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Posted by Jetrock on Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:18 AM
Running multiple trains is a definite advantage if someone besides yourself is going to be operating the layout--but yes, if operating by yourself, you could very easily have one train waiting on a siding while operating another one. But that could be done just as easliy with a switch.

DCC does have a learning curve, but frankly, it's probably easier for the technologically challenged than wiring for two-cab operation on all but the smallest of layouts--and, frankly, a 4x8 is *not* the smallest of layouts.

One thing about "DCC ready"--it really doesn't mean much, other than "with some swearing and labor you could feasibly solder a DCC decoder in here." Sometimes it means a plug you can just stick a DCC decoder into--other times it means quite a bit of hassle,
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Posted by NZRMac on Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:35 AM
I'm new to DCC and have a Lenz Compact. I have two sound equipped loco's one Athearn diesel and a Bachmann 2-6-0 (soundtraxx the basic ones) and they sound really good.

To keep things interesting for me, my layout is single mainline with passing sidings, I run trains in opposite directions and let them pass on the sidings, sometimes one may have to wait for the other but it's all fun.

With some automation I could let those two go for it on the main, and have some switching action in the yards I'm putting together, all at the same time without flicking switches etc.

I was dreading wiring up my layout with all the blocks etc, last October I discovered DCC right here on the MR forums and I haven't looked back.

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Posted by tstage on Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:39 AM
sailor38,

As far as getting started, you can probably purchase both a Bachmann EZ Command - your "vanilla" system (at discount) - and a basic decoder for under $100. You'll have to install the decoder and wire your layout for DCC but, like Jetrock said, it will be less of a challenge than trying to wire it up for DC cab control. Makes more sense, too.

There are some good books written on the subject. I don't know how much info you've read on basic DCC (you've obviously read something by the list of pros in your post) but Tony's Train Exchange has a very good write up about DCC on their web page called something like "DCC for Beginners". (It's located at the top of the 2nd column in the middle.) I found it very helpful and informative. Here's their link: http://www.tonystrains.com

Hope that's helpful...

Tom

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:19 AM
I think that esencial, in DCC, is that the system must have, at least, 12 functions: otherwise, you will not hear most of the sounds.
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Posted by cacole on Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:23 AM
If, as you say, you're "scared" by DCC, then by all means don't attempt to use it.
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cacole

If, as you say, you're "scared" by DCC, then by all means don't attempt to use it.



Personally, I don't think fear should be an issue. Educate yourself and the fear will go away.

Chip

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Posted by dinwitty on Thursday, January 20, 2005 7:38 PM
when you consider the club layout I was in with 8 train mainline capability all with block wiring, you had 9 wires going block to block with switches.

DCC is just 2 wires following the track.

It technically puts the throttle where it's supposed to be, on the locomotive.

I'm going for it, even if its just one or 2 locos, operationally it will be more fun...

especially when I have BLI's 2-6-6-4....:D

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Posted by eng22 on Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:56 PM
There is no question here GO DCC! Look at the entry level systems, that can expand as your layout expands. DCC is easier, nothing to fear.
Craig - Annpere MI, a cool place if you like trains and scrapyards

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