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Spraying dilute glue
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Dagny818
Member since
June 2002
From: 18 miles from Buffalo
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Spraying dilute glue
Posted by
Dagny818
on Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:02 PM
In constructing scenry I have diluted Elmers glue 50/50 with water. I cannot get a fine "mist" spray from several different brands of one quart spray bottles.
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ukguy
Member since
October 2004
From: Mississippi
819 posts
Posted by
ukguy
on Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:13 PM
I am a new beginner and also had the same problem. I found that the mixture is too thick to pass through the nozzel in a fine mist. when cleaning out the nozzle with water it 'misted' just fine. I thinned down the 50/50 mix again, probably to 25/75 maybe a little more and it worked fine. Worried that there was not enough 'tack' in this mix I just resprayed it all 5 mins later. This worked fine for me and everything is stuck well. It looks real white, wet and messy when it is wet but all of mine dried OK. Some pics are here :- www.geocities.com/karldesign/riverarea
Have fun and good luck.
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foxtrackin
Member since
December 2003
From: Michigantown, In
78 posts
Posted by
foxtrackin
on Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:26 PM
I spray a light mist of water with dish soap in it and use a glass cleaner bottle and soak the ballast or ground foam pretty good. Then I use an old glue bottle with about 1/3 glue and 2/3 water mix.
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dehusman
Member since
September 2003
From: Omaha, NE
10,621 posts
Posted by
dehusman
on Saturday, January 15, 2005 6:01 PM
I never spray the glue. I get a plastic "ketchup bottle", one of those with the long pointed nozzle. I mix 50-50 glue and water in the bottle.
I spray a mist of water with a couple drops of dish detergent (to make it "wetter"). when the ground foam or whatever is damp to wet, I take the ketchup bottle and dribble white glue very gently onto the scenery and let the glue flow into the scenery. I let it dry and then repeat it. I have been very successful with this technique and have used it for over 20 years.
Dave H.
Dave H. Painted side goes up. My website : wnbranch.com
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cacole
Member since
July 2003
From: Sierra Vista, Arizona
13,757 posts
Posted by
cacole
on Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:48 PM
Don't try to spray the glue, dribble it on out of an empty glue bottle with the orange plastic closable top. I have found, too, that rubbing alcohol is better than the water/detergent mix for moistening the ballast or scenery before and after applying the glue. What I usually do is spray alcohol, dribble on the glue, and then spray more alcohol until the area is fairly saturated. The alcohol evaporates faster than water.
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csxengineer98
Member since
October 2002
From: US
2,358 posts
Posted by
csxengineer98
on Sunday, January 16, 2005 2:27 AM
mix more water and thin the glue out more...and you will be able to get it to mist out of a spray bottle... i would say about 80 water to 20 glue...works the best... elmers glue is water baseed anyways...so when it drys out.. a thinner mix is still enough to hold senery together...
csx engineer
"I AM the higher source" Keep the wheels on steel
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wp8thsub
Member since
November 2002
From: US
2,455 posts
Posted by
wp8thsub
on Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:05 PM
I've had a lot of success spraying Elmer's yellow glue diluted about 2/3 or more with water. For some applications, particularly ballast, I've found the sprayer to be much more effective at not disturbing the loose scenery material and thus preserving its shape. A mixture with only 25% - 30% glue is still plenty to hold most scenery material in place, but if you want more strength just wait until the sprayed glue dries, and then apply a thicker mixture dribbled from an old glue/ketchup/whatever bottle. The original shape will still be maintained.
For base scenery applications other than ballast, I apply the same glue mixture directly to the plaster shell with a brush. Final details are secured with the sprayer.
Rob Spangler
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