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Is there anyway I can ballast Unitrack without attaching to the ground?

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Is there anyway I can ballast Unitrack without attaching to the ground?
Posted by RailEagle on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:42 PM

Also any ballast recommendations besides the one made by Kato?

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:56 PM

I have never done it myself but ---


Here in the UK some people use long pins to tie the track down.  Then ballast, removing the pins afterwards.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:06 PM

I do not understand the question.

Unitrack is already ballasted.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:06 PM

I am not sure what your asking, but, if it is what I think you are asking you can paint on white glue, sprinkle the ballast over it and dump off what doesn't stick. Repeat as necessary. If this is not what you are looking for please disregard.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:11 AM

Not sure if this helps, but I only attach the Unitrack on curves, using hot glue on the inside curve of each section so I can shim the outside to superelate it. Then I use Woodland Scenic ballast, I think it's called "fine mixed gray" or something like that, along the sides of the Unitrack to hide the joint and make the ballast less 'perfect', then seal with matte medium or white glue like you'd normally use on ballast. If you then add a wash of like diluted black paint or India Ink (I use white because my layout is set in early winter) it seems to blend together pretty well.

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Posted by EMDSD40 on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:34 AM

Get the impression this is not a permanent undertaking.  May I suggest kitty litter. There are many sizes and shades. Find one suitable and buy several containers for future use , change,  or repair.  I use it on my layout consisting of cork roadbed and brass track. Majority of it has been laying there for 30 years. Had no problems and makes changes simple. It's cost effective and does the job for me. Layout has 1000' of track and 100 turnouts. Have fun!

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Posted by RailEagle on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:25 AM

BATMAN

I am not sure what your asking, but, if it is what I think you are asking you can paint on white glue, sprinkle the ballast over it and dump off what doesn't stick. Repeat as necessary. If this is not what you are looking for please disregard.

 

 

Yep that's it. Thanks for the advice.

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Posted by BATMAN on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:56 PM

RailEagle

 

 
BATMAN

I am not sure what your asking, but, if it is what I think you are asking you can paint on white glue, sprinkle the ballast over it and dump off what doesn't stick. Repeat as necessary. If this is not what you are looking for please disregard.

 

 

 

 

Yep that's it. Thanks for the advice.

 

You're very welcome.Cowboy

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Posted by wjstix on Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:51 AM

I assume we're talking about adding ballast on the sides of the Unitrack ballast strip? The Unitrack ties only stick up like 1/16" above the ballast it comes with, if you add ballast on top it would cover the ties completely.

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Posted by RailEagle on Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:08 AM

Yes. While I don't mind the look of the unitrack ballast I want to make it look more natural on the edges.

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Posted by CNCharlie on Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:49 PM

I use the Unitrack brand ballast along the edge of the plastic so it doesn't look so staight. I hold it down with a white glue solution. Fianally I apply an india ink solution to make ut all look more weathered. It holds the track and if you want to remove it just soak with alcohol and use a scrapper.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, December 17, 2020 8:26 PM

I have always thought it looked OK with other scenery cover just up to the Untrack integrated ballast.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, December 18, 2020 12:45 PM

Put a thin layer of Saran Wrap under the track before ballasting.  When you lift the track again, the Saran Wrap is easy to pull off, leaving the ballast intact.

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, December 18, 2020 1:21 PM

In the steam era, ballast was usually laid on a layer of cinders that was usually a couple of feet wider than the ballast. You could possibly do something like that, but black ballast along the sides representing cinders. Then you wouldn't have to worry about matching the Kato ballast color and size.

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Posted by RailEagle on Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:02 PM

Here are the first results. I'm starting with the sidings and will be moving in the mainline.

https://ibb.co/54vWXfk

 

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Posted by cowman on Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:50 PM

You could find a textured paint that is the color you want your ballast, paint it on, no mess when moving your track.  Ties could be left gray and given a wash to make them less uniform in color.

Have fun, 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, January 25, 2021 6:09 AM

SeeYou190

I do not understand the question.

Unitrack is already ballasted.

-Kevin

Molded in ballast, just like molded coal loads, simply doesn't look as good or realistic a separately applied ballast (or coal).  Of course YMMV.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, January 25, 2021 7:27 AM

The link to his picture, doesn't look like Unitrack, must be buried with the ballast, and the other stone.  

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, January 25, 2021 10:56 AM

Yes that's Unitrack, you can tell by the track joiners.

One thing I like to do is paint some of the ties dark brown or dark gray to add a little variation to the black ties. I also "paint" the sides of the rails with Neo-Lube from the Micro-Mark catalogue, which leaves the rail sides  a dull almost-black gray.

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Posted by RailEagle on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:38 AM

mbinsewi

The link to his picture, doesn't look like Unitrack, must be buried with the ballast, and the other stone.  

Mike.

 

 

Your right. I was a little heavy on the ballast there as I was trying trying to hide the track's slope on the siding.

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Posted by wjstix on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 11:04 AM

What I do on like an industry spur or yard track is raise up the building with 1/4" Woodland Scenic foam sheet, right up to the edge of the Unitrack ballast strip. Then I use gray mix ballast to fill in the sloping area to make it level. 

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