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Addams Family (1990s) Layout plan? N gauge?

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 5:39 AM

John Busby

 

 
Tinplate Toddler

Kato N scale Unitrack is available in different radii, down to 150mm. Before you plan a layout with sharp curves, you need to establish the minimum radius your trains will be able to negotiate without decoupling or derailing.

 

 

 

Thats handy to know for anything I might wish to do loosly based on eggerbahn plansBig Smile

regards John

 

John - Minitrains now sells track with same geometry as the old Eggerbahn track system!

http://minitrains.eu/mt-acc.html

 

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Posted by John Busby on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 4:57 AM

Tinplate Toddler

Kato N scale Unitrack is available in different radii, down to 150mm. Before you plan a layout with sharp curves, you need to establish the minimum radius your trains will be able to negotiate without decoupling or derailing.

 

Thats handy to know for anything I might wish to do loosly based on eggerbahn plansBig Smile

regards John

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Posted by rrinker on Sunday, May 10, 2020 11:54 AM

 Remember, Lionel trains were designed to handle extremely tight curves - standard O 3 rail was 31 inches - DIAMETER, not radius, so only 15 1/2" radius - we generally don't use curves that tight in HO as is, and the equivalent HO curve would actually be 7 3/4" - and we don't usually use curves that small in N, but it would actually be about a 4" radius in N.

 And O-27 - that's 27" DIAMETER, a mere 13 1/2" radius. In O scale. Reduce accordingly for smaller scales.

 What WOULD work, and run nearly anything, is to build it exactly the same in N scale - not shrunk down, built it the same overall size as the original. That would mean 13 1/2" and 15 1/2" radius N scale curves, which will handle all but the newest long locos and rolling stock, or big steam locos. 4 axle diesels, smaller steap locos, and 40 foot freight cars would have no trouble with that in N.

Edit: I see the pictured example says it was Super-O. That was 36" diameter, so close to 9" radius in HO or 5" radius N. Either way, my last paragraph still stands - built it as-is, same size, just with smaller guage track. So the result in N would be using 18" radius track, which should handle anything.

 Either way - turnouts will be a problem, Lionel ones were drop in replacements for a curved or straight section. Even Peco or Atlas Snap Track isn't quite that universal.

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:16 AM

Kato N scale Unitrack is available in different radii, down to 150mm. Before you plan a layout with sharp curves, you need to establish the minimum radius your trains will be able to negotiate without decoupling or derailing.

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Posted by John Busby on Sunday, May 10, 2020 3:57 AM

Hi all

I don't quite see how this reduction will work at HO it becomes 2'6" X 4'6"

basicaly the board is now to small for std HO set track curves.

They recon "N' needs two thirds of the HO space so that becomes 20" X 36"

and again you are really pushing to get the smallest standard set track curve in.

That is working on a direct scale line down to "N"scale it doesn't work.

You are first going to have to create the layout plan using the prefered brand of track.

Taking note of how much space it takes as the plan progresses that will tell you what track sections and how many of each piece is needed what other pieces are needed.

Once you have the shopping list double check it, It will be anoying if you go to the store and then find out you have come home one piece short.

I have to admit liking the idea

You need to at least have the train trigger some flashing orange & red LED's and a bang sound as a reminder of where its from Big SmileDevil

regards John

 

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Posted by Safety Valve on Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:21 AM

Probably not going to do that but I may be able to come up with something that doesn't use Pyrotechnics

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Posted by Safety Valve on Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:19 AM

Thats actually what I'm looking for, Thanks for the Track Plan! I'm saving that screenshot! 

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:42 AM

 There's actually at least two layouts - you see two different track plans in those clips. The one where Gomez blows the bridge (they used the same clip every time) is the plan above. Later there is another plan that has the tracks crossing at 90 degrees in the middle.

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Posted by cuyama on Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:29 AM

I believe the TV layout might have been larger than 5X9 O Gauge layout that Ulrich shared, but that 5X9 layout does capture the basics of the TV layout.

The 5X9 layout seems to be designed with "Super O" (O-36 or 36" outside diameter) curves. For short cars and engines, one might be able to use nominal 9¾" N scale Unitrack R-249 curves. Broader curves would lessen the grades and allow longer equipment. (O-Gauge rolling stock has a lot of compromises built-in to allow the use of relatively tighter curves than the equivalent N-scale equipment.)

But assuming R-249, you are probably still looking at a bit larger than 2' wide. So the 4'X3' would be the safer choice to allow adequate track-to-track spacing and some safety room to the edge of the benchwork. One would need a more-detailed design effort to be able to estimate the grades.

Good luck with your layout.

Byron

 

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Posted by Deane Johnson on Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:09 AM

How would you handle the blowing up of the bridge???

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Posted by Tinplate Toddler on Saturday, May 9, 2020 1:58 AM

To the OP: You can hardly expect anybody to search for the track plan and then convert it into a N scale track plan for you, finally providing a list of track pieces you would need for it. This takes hours and hours. You will have to do that job on your own.

As you can see, it´s a O gauge toy train layout.

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Posted by wvg_ca on Friday, May 8, 2020 11:08 PM

You would be best off using Scarm [or other layout] software to get your layout into N scale  ..

It was orgionally quite a bit larger in scale ... then it could then tell you layout size and number of sections used

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Addams Family (1990s) Layout plan? N gauge?
Posted by Safety Valve on Friday, May 8, 2020 8:36 PM

Hello just out of curiousity how could one produce The Addams Family Layout in N Gauge using converted Lionel and Re-profiled Lone Star Models, I'm Hoping to Do a Layout at my Dads place eventually for N gauge, Best reccomondations for how much Track I'd need? Could one build this on a 4x3 sheet of ply or with Kato Unitrack on a 2x4 Piece of plywood? Thanks!!

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