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Does anyone Fini***heir layout?

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Does anyone Fini***heir layout?
Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 10:49 AM
When I read the question I'll bet that most of you were thinking something else.

What I mean is with all the work you put into the top of the table, do you do anything to make it look good to the nosey neighbor lady--you know cover the foam and sides of the plywood. Build a skirt around the edge table to hide the legs and wires and stuff I know you need to crawl under but you can have access points. I know my wife will like it better if it looks good to her friends and family.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 12:24 PM
Yes, my last layout had 1/8" hardboard sides cut to fit the scenery. I had planned on some kind of fabric 'skirt' below the hardboard but did not get that far before adding a new and larger train room over the garage. Now am in the process of building the new layout and plan to 'finish' it the same way.
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Posted by rexhea on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 12:36 PM
Yes, I have a painted fascia with a skirt hanging down. This helps hide storage and wiring. It just helps to make it all neat looking.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 5, 2005 10:58 PM
I added all that stuff to make it look nice myself. I wanted to take your eyes off of the floor and onto the layout so I had to do it. All I did was buy a couple of sheets of 4x8 Luan board and cut it in three pieces and then spray painted it black then I custom cut each piece to fit what ever the contour was. Then after that I got some black cloth from the clearance rack for $1 a yard and paid a total f $7 for the skirt. Here is a pic of the finished product It really makes a difference too

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Posted by Jetrock on Thursday, January 6, 2005 3:56 AM
Fascia and skirting are pretty common. Fabric skirting is widely used in order to keep access simple, but a lot of folks with shelf layouts (like me) put storage shelves underneath. That kind of "finish" does help create a neater look for the layout--blocking out things like exposed unpainted foam helps maintain the illusion of scenery.
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Posted by jkeaton on Thursday, January 6, 2005 9:44 AM
Keeping it looking good for others in the family who don't appreciate raw lumber, plaster and foam is important. I am building book"storage shelves into the supports of my new layout - finishing the walls and ceiling behind the layout with Masonite - painting all raw lumber and scenery with tan paint nearly as soon as it's up - installing skirts under the layout where the shelves aren't - and putting a Masonite front edge on the layout as well. I've seen articles about layouts in coffeetables and built in family rooms where the layout supports and front edges were built like good furniture. Of the handful of other permanent layouts my wife has seen, the only ones she "approved" of were those with a "finished look" to the edges, back, supports - she's much more forgiving of unfinished scenery than of unfinished lumber!

I think that anything that makes the layout look better to the casual observer is a "good thing".

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Posted by Train1725 on Thursday, January 6, 2005 1:31 PM
I am "planing" (it might never get done) on finishing my 8x4 notched layout with hardwood or stained pine. Instead on the legs i have now, i plan to build a set of cabinets underneath, all one unit, with the layout sitting on top, but only screwed down in a few places, so it can easily be raised for maintainence. I wouls also like locking casters so i could roll it out for acess. Also, probably dreaming, but what do you think of a glass and wood frame hinged cover ?!? One that would open up and against the wall. This would make the layout more of a piece of furniture, and since it will be across from my basement "bar", also i nice safe place to set a beer while you watch the trains. Again, still just dreams in my head..just starting to lay track.
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Posted by mikebonellisr on Thursday, January 6, 2005 5:07 PM
On one wall[the longest] ,my layout is above a row of old dressers that we picked up along with some open shelves.When they were all painted,it's hard to notice the difference in the dressers.Putting the same knobs on all of them ties it all together.My layout is pretty high and the 2ft. or so between the top of the low dressers and the bottom of the fascia boards allows access to anything under the layout.The dressers are also on casters so they can be pulled all the way out if need be.The large,deep dresser drawers are great to hide stored items
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Posted by CFournier on Thursday, January 6, 2005 5:37 PM
SpaceMouse,
Check the february 2005 Model Railroader mag at page 63. The answer is venetian blinds!!!
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Posted by NZRMac on Monday, January 10, 2005 12:57 AM
I've just finished putting some finishing touches to the bench work after some extension work, now I can reply to this post!!





The new extensions are in the middle and right 'legs'
used cheap sheets cut in half and on a wire so I can pull them across for access underneath. Many thanks to my luvly misses Jan.
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Posted by jkeaton on Monday, January 10, 2005 8:03 AM
Train1725, I think the wood and glass hinged cover would look great across from your bar - make the layout look a little like one of the old-time lawyer's bookshelves. Just be sure to engineer the weight and stiffness of the cover carefully. I'd be tempted to use lexan rather than glass, frankly, especially if you have kids (or others) around who might slam or drop the cover.

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Posted by Train1725 on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:01 PM
Jim,
Thanks for the tip. Do you know the weight/price difference between glass and lexan? Weight was one of my concerns, as i wanted to use as few supports as possible, so as not to obscure the trains .
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:05 PM
Not really! It just depends on the size of it.
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Posted by jkeaton on Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:06 PM
Train 1725,

Off the top of my head, lexan (or equivalent at Home Depot etc.) is about half the weight of glass, and maybe three times the price - it's been a long time since I bought window glass in any quantity, for window-type projects these days I always seem to be buying lexan or other clear plastic. I know it is lighter, but more expensive. A lot easier to handle than a big sheet of glass, though!

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Posted by CBQ_Guy on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:19 PM
" Does anyone Fini***heir layout?"
NO!

Heck, I can't even seem to get one started!
"Paul [Kossart] - The CB&Q Guy" [In Illinois] ~ Modeling the CB&Q and its fictional 'Illiniwek River-Subdivision-Branch Line' in the 1960's. ~
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Posted by SilverSpike on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:27 PM
Yes, I am planning on having a 'finished' look to the layout, with emphasis on the word planning. When I eventually get my layout built I would like to incorporate cabinets below the benchwork if at all possible and for storage. Does anyone have plans, photos of, or ideas on building a layout with cabinets as part of the benchwork?
- Ryan

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Posted by Train1725 on Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:59 PM
I am planning storage cabinets, as well as a lighted train display cabinet below my benchwork. Since i just took apart my kitchen and had new cabinets installed, i have some preety good ideas about how i want it to go together. The Layout will overhand the cabinets a few inches so you can "belly-up" to the trains. Most will be on casters so they can roll out for wiring anf under layout work.
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Posted by SilverSpike on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:09 PM
Train1725,

Interesting concept with the cabinets on casters, makes the benchwork more accessable from below.

Thanks,

Ryan

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Posted by cwclark on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:10 PM
once the fascia is in, I'm going to put in some shelves under the layout and then put up curtains..the curtains will be hung from a wire under the l girder so i can pu***hem to the sides to get to the shelves and under the layout...time for my wife to break out the sewing machine!...Chuck

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Posted by SilverSpike on Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:21 PM
Good idea, Chuck! I have seen an Internet article on the I-beam for benchwork, and have considred that technique. How has that worked for you on yours?

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Posted by TRyburn on Thursday, January 20, 2005 8:35 PM
I finished it off with stained plywood.

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Posted by SilverSpike on Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:23 PM
Nice job TRyburn with the stained plywood. I love stained natural wood grain! Any possibility of getting a larger image?

Thanks,

Ryan

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Posted by TRyburn on Friday, January 21, 2005 4:41 AM
Here are two larger ones.



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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, January 21, 2005 8:49 AM
[wow] Nice carpentry work TRyburn! Thanks for the larger images, looks great! Is the area below benchwork accessible? I am hoping to build a similar design, but with cabinetry below for storage.

Thanks,

Ryan
[wow]

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Friday, January 21, 2005 9:28 AM
TRyburn,

This is the look I was thinnking of. I too have a question of access and storage.

Chip

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Posted by TRyburn on Friday, January 21, 2005 3:56 PM
The layout is still open in the back. I finished the front and sides. The back of the layout is about a foot and half off the wall. I finished the front and side after I had the layout pretty much completely wired. I have done some wiring since and it's not that big of a deal to walk around and crawl under. The layout is pretty high so that helps. I have added a few floursent strip lights under the layout that I can turn them on when I'm under there trying to hook something up.

I was going to build in a few shelves on the front, but I didn't want to lose access to any part below the layout. I could probably add a shallow set of shelves. Anyway, right now I just store a few boxes that I can move out of my way if I need to.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:51 PM
Hello

Many years ago we put skirts (curtains) around the outside of the modular layout. It sure is dark under the table.

WE PAINTED THE BOTTOM OF THE TABLES YELLOW. The color was Red Devil Dutch Yellow. This helped us to see better and troubleshoot a problem very fast.

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Posted by canazar on Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:52 AM
I built my bench work exactly 4 ft up. I stumbled upon wood paneling. it was cheap, easy to cut, ligth weight and looked good. I alo just used a a couple of small screws to hold it up. I suppose I could have come up with something more creative to use a latch or haning device. it had been a hot long day, and the screws were just sittin right there. So bingo, 30 seconds there off. I keep all of our seldom used stuff under there. Holiday stuff, seasonal clothes etc. Nice thign about that paneling (it is the stuff ment for indoor use) is that it does come in lots of colors and patterns. If I could figure out how to post pictures Id post one.

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Posted by jkeaton on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:44 AM
Quote: "time for my wife to break out the sewing machine!...Chuck"

Get your wife to break out the sewing machine????

Sewing machines are dirt simple to use, Chuck - in fact, I'm better with the sewing machine than my wife is (she has no patience and breaks the needles, as does her mother!). Have someone show you how to thread up the beast, practice on a scrap or two of cloth, and go to!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:32 PM
It all depends on how fast you work on it, and how much time you spend.

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