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Trying to choose ballast color

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Posted by John Graser on Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:12 PM
Thanks every one for the suggestions. John
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Posted by John Graser on Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:10 PM

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Posted by John Graser on Sunday, October 21, 2018 10:05 PM
Thanks for the photo.
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Posted by bearman on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:47 AM

If you go with an AR&M product, and I am a confirmed AR&M customer, make sure you check on the product number.  With some of their products, there may be a difference in the size of the ballast for the same scale.  I have also heard that some folks like to use N scale ballast on an HO layout.

On the AR&M web site, there is a Wabash Gray for SP and CSX, which looks like the color of the ballast in the Crocket CA picture, albeit perhaps slightly darker.  If you buy in bulk, then you may be able to swing a discount.  It is a small family business and the owner can be very accommodating.  When I made a mistake and reordered the wrong ballast, I drove up there, an interesting morning trip from Phoenix.  He took back my mistake, figured out the right ballast and rather than hassle with a credit card I asked him to give me 12$ worth of the right stuff and call it even.  He said fine, bagged the ballast right there, and I was on my way home within 30 minutes.

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Posted by John Graser on Monday, October 15, 2018 10:25 PM

Here is a sample of our first ballast laying.

 

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Monday, October 15, 2018 1:21 PM

For gravel roads you need to go with a fine sand, almost a silt size because (like the above example) you wouldn't want to drive on a road with such coarse gravel!  

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Posted by kasskaboose on Monday, October 15, 2018 7:54 AM

rrebell

It is a grayish granite look, with white, black and grey particals that looks light grey from the distance.

 

This is a great color combo for rocks too.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, October 14, 2018 9:29 AM

I use a lighter gray then wash it with black until it looks the right color. This also emphasises shadows and gives the ballast more depth.

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Posted by rrebell on Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:08 PM

It is a grayish granite look, with white, black and grey particals that looks light grey from the distance.

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Posted by dknelson on Saturday, October 13, 2018 11:30 AM

The ballast I apply is lighter than the prototype color because I darken the entire roadbed area with a spray mix of alcohol and india ink.  That gives a bit of variation to the shade.  Let is dry before deciding if you have gone far enough.  it is easier to darken what is too light than to lighten what is too dark.

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Posted by HO-Velo on Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:51 AM

UP, formerly SP mainline at Crockett, Ca. (S.F. bay area) Photo taken from Carquinez bridge 2011.

Again, caution, A.R.M. ballast can darken after glue down process.

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Posted by RR_Mel on Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:25 AM

I use the Arizona Rock & Mineral SP/CSX/Wabash #138-2 ballast for my gravel roads.
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:49 AM

In the Arizona Rock and Mineral topic, there's a photo of SP ballast at Berkeley CA.  That is assuming that UP didn't up and change everything, like ballast, when they took over back in the day.  It is likely too much of a close-up to get a good sense of the color/shade, though.

The official ballast of Free-mo is the ARM one I mentioned in the topic.  It should be mentioned that it was chosen by people on the west coast.  Hint hint.

Here is a topic where the matter was also discussed:

http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/11/t/39074.aspx

and another:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,2498652

 

There are LOTS of videos on Youtube that show ballast colors.  Try looking at some shot in your area of interest.

 

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Posted by RR_Mel on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:14 PM

Southern Pacific Mainline Bakersfield CA going north to Fresno.  Google Maps.
 
 
 
It’s the same color going east to Tehachapi.
 
I used black on my SP layout.
 
 
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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, October 12, 2018 9:39 PM

Where on the West Coast?  If you can, go to the site you wish to model and take pictures.

I live on the East Coast so I can't help much.

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Trying to choose ballast color
Posted by John Graser on Friday, October 12, 2018 9:01 PM

Which color would you choose for SP on west coast?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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