Trains.com

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Movable (Rolling) Staging Yard, Thoughts?

2488 views
15 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: NW Pa Snow-belt.
  • 2,216 posts
Movable (Rolling) Staging Yard, Thoughts?
Posted by ricktrains4824 on Monday, August 6, 2018 6:07 PM

I will be rebuilding and expanding my layout soon, and was planning on having a removable staging yard, on locking casters, that can be rolled and locked into position when the layout is operating, but then slid out of the way when need be. (There is a requirement to be able to access a area that would be blocked if the staging yard was permanent. So, if it was movable it could be slid out of the way, when that access is needed.)

Has anyone done this? 

Any thoughts as to how it would work?

Or is this an idea that I should scrap?

Ricky W.

HO scale Proto-freelancer.

My Railroad rules:

1: It's my railroad, my rules.

2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.

3: Any objections, consult above rules.

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • 869 posts
Posted by davidmurray on Monday, August 6, 2018 6:19 PM

RicK:

You left out some important points: 1) How often would the area need to be accessed?

How big a staging area?

Need help/availible help to move?

      I have read at least one article on moving a 4x8 or 5x10 layout when needed, so is feasible.

Good luck

Dave

 

David Murray from Oshawa, Ontario Canada
  • Member since
    March 2018
  • 688 posts
Posted by BNSF UP and others modeler on Monday, August 6, 2018 6:20 PM

Sounds good! Just make sure you are meticulous on quality control for smooth operation. Don't have any example of your idea though...

I'm beginning to realize that Windows 10 and sound decoders have a lot in common. There are so many things you have to change in order to get them to work the way you want.

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: NW Pa Snow-belt.
  • 2,216 posts
Posted by ricktrains4824 on Monday, August 6, 2018 7:34 PM

The area would need weekly access, and the staging yard would be approx. 6 feet long by 3 feet wide.

It would really only need to be "spun" off to the side, as the layout would be "L" shaped, with the staging yard coming off the short side of the L to make a almost "U" shape, with the staging yard being shorter in length than the opposite side. 

I was figuring on a solid top-style in cabinet grade plywood, with a table style construction.

I would have help to move it, if needed, but it would roll on the casters enough that I figured with its smaller size, I could roll it out the way for the access myself. 

Ricky W.

HO scale Proto-freelancer.

My Railroad rules:

1: It's my railroad, my rules.

2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.

3: Any objections, consult above rules.

  • Member since
    July 2009
  • From: lavale, md
  • 4,678 posts
Posted by gregc on Monday, August 6, 2018 8:10 PM

how are you planning to align the tracks?

gaps and vertical displacement aren't a big problem, but horizontal alignment is important.

greg - Philadelphia & Reading / Reading

  • Member since
    February 2002
  • From: Reading, PA
  • 30,002 posts
Posted by rrinker on Monday, August 6, 2018 9:11 PM

 If you can swing it instead of completely remove it - put it on casters, but attach it to one corner of the layout with a hinge, You can swing/roll it out of the way when needed, and the hinge will help the horizontal alignment. I KNOW I've seen this done (right down to the wheels) somewhere before.

                                    --Randy

 


Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's

 

Visit my web site at www.readingeastpenn.com for construction updates, DCC Info, and more.

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Monday, August 6, 2018 10:02 PM

A friend has a car ferry which he uses as a staging yard.  It's on casters, so can be rolled completely out of the way.  If I recall correctly, he uses barrel bolts to secure it when the ferry is docked.
Randy's idea of using a hinge to simply swing it out of the way is a good one, especially for maintaining alignment.

Wayne

  • Member since
    September 2004
  • From: Dearborn Station
  • 24,281 posts
Posted by richhotrain on Monday, August 6, 2018 10:42 PM

doctorwayne

Randy's idea of using a hinge to simply swing it out of the way is a good one, especially for maintaining alignment. 

That seems impractical. If you construct a 6'x3' staging area in hinged fashion to swing out of the way when not in use, that would require an overall 9'x9' space to accommodate the staging area.

Rich

Alton Junction

  • Member since
    January 2004
  • From: Canada, eh?
  • 13,375 posts
Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, August 7, 2018 2:58 AM

richhotrain
...If you construct a 6'x3' staging area in hinged fashion to swing out of the way when not in use, that would require an overall 9'x9' space to accommodate the staging are

I dunno, Rich.  If the staging area is 6'x3', then it needs only a 6'x3' area into which it can be swung.  The hinge won't change 18 square feet into 81 square feet.

Wayne

  • Member since
    September 2004
  • From: Dearborn Station
  • 24,281 posts
Posted by richhotrain on Tuesday, August 7, 2018 4:50 AM

doctorwayne
 
richhotrain
...If you construct a 6'x3' staging area in hinged fashion to swing out of the way when not in use, that would require an overall 9'x9' space to accommodate the staging are 

I dunno, Rich.  If the staging area is 6'x3', then it needs only a 6'x3' area into which it can be swung.  The hinge won't change 18 square feet into 81 square feet.

Wayne 

I guess what I am trying to say is that if the staging area is hinged and has to swing 90 degrees to join the layout, there is a lot more space required, essentially a 9'x9' space to accommodate the area needed to swing the hinged staging area into place when you consider the overall footprint. Maybe only 6'x9' if you disregard the adjacent layout space that is part of this whole effort.

Rich

Alton Junction

  • Member since
    July 2009
  • From: lavale, md
  • 4,678 posts
Posted by gregc on Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:03 AM

if the wood on the layout and staging shelf swells differently with humidity, there could be a signifcant horizontal shift.

greg - Philadelphia & Reading / Reading

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Bedford, MA, USA
  • 21,482 posts
Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:32 AM

What is the capacity of the yard?  Is it practical to move the trains on to the fixed layout and then back again when the yard is replaced?  This would let you use a fold down or fold up section instead of a large table on casters that had to be kept flat and level.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

  • Member since
    January 2015
  • From: Southern California
  • 1,682 posts
Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Tuesday, August 7, 2018 11:08 AM

    You will need to have some solid legs and a smooth floor. Wooden legs will work themselves loose after awhile. I suggest making the frame and legs out of metal. Use large casters also.
    I used to work at a restaurant that had a stainless steel table that size in the kitchen which was moved daily. A table like that would work nicely for a movable staging yard.

https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-5001/Workbenches/Stainless-Steel-Worktable-72-x-30?pricode=WA9797&gadtype=pla&id=H-5001&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg5jhjanb3AIV1xyBCh2mzAnHEAQYByABEgJiuvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Modeling a fictional version of California set in the 1990s Lone Wolf and Santa Fe Railroad
  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Bedford, MA, USA
  • 21,482 posts
Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, August 7, 2018 12:08 PM

I built the first phase of my layout on casters.  It was 5 x 12 feet and had 6 legs.  The room was carpeted.

I was able to move it around by myself pretty easily.  I never derailed anything and never disturbed any scenery.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

  • Member since
    November 2006
  • From: NW Pa Snow-belt.
  • 2,216 posts
Posted by ricktrains4824 on Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:26 PM

The staging yard would be twofold, it would hold staged trains, but also serve as a place to have "excess" equipment "off layout" at times.

While I have a couple of "display shelves", I have a few trains that are cycled on and off regularly, so this would serve as a way to have them readily accessable, but not take up any "on-layout" trackage.

As far as track alignment, if I made a "cut-out" section, where either the staging yard, or the layout itself, can slide over/under, and lock it in place with a carriage bolt (or two), much like a lift out would have, there shouldn't be any alignment issues. (Or am I off one that?)

I also will have it in a fully climate controlled room, heat in winter and AC in summer, so swelling and shrinkage should not be as big of an issue, especially as all the wood will be sealed. 

Ricky W.

HO scale Proto-freelancer.

My Railroad rules:

1: It's my railroad, my rules.

2: It's for having fun and enjoyment.

3: Any objections, consult above rules.

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • 33 posts
Posted by stevetx on Wednesday, August 8, 2018 9:47 PM

If not done already, I suggest you do a search for Fillmore Avenue Roundhouse. Look thru its web site and learn how it's moveable staging consoles are used. It's an extensive site so be sure you find, read, and see the consoles/modules.  It could provide some great ideas for your staging yard. This layout was featured in one of Kalmbach's annuals ("Great" or "Planning") a few years ago.  The design and operation of the system is very interesting. 

Steve

Subscriber & Member Login

Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, manage your account online and more!

Users Online

There are no community member online

Search the Community

ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT
Model Railroader Newsletter See all
Sign up for our FREE e-newsletter and get model railroad news in your inbox!