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White glue for water?
Posted by mreagant on Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:32 PM

Anyone ever tried to simulate water in a trough or other small container by using white glue that dries clear?

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:42 PM

I haven't tried it yet myself but I have seen others use Mod-Podge gloss as a water surface. I have used Envirotex with good results and I plan to try the Mod-Podge soon.

https://www.dickblick.com/products/plaid-mod-podge/

There are dozens of products that fall into the category of "White Glue" which is based on PVA glues. The Mod-Podge being one of them but it may be formulated to give a higher gloss surface.

I use the matte Mod-Podge, thinned, of course, as ballast cement and I am quite pleased with the results.

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Posted by sktrains on Sunday, February 25, 2018 7:10 AM

I did a small pond scene and put a couple layers of elmers ''crystal clear school glue'', it came out ok  but i think ill try somthing diffrent next time   

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Posted by mreagant on Monday, February 26, 2018 2:53 PM

These are helpful responses. Thanks. I just need to "fill" a water tank next to a windmill in far west Texas.  Don't need a pint of those "water" products and wondered about trying Elmers or something like that.  Will wait a couple of days to see if anyone else chimes in.

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Posted by hornblower on Monday, February 26, 2018 3:06 PM

MT

Elmers might indeed work to fill a tank.  However, I would test the idea in a small disposable cup before trying it on the actual tank. You'll probably have to pour it in thin layers and let each layer dry before pouring the next layer.  Let us know what you find out.

I like to use Mod Podge Gloss Medium for water and it's not too different from white glue.

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Posted by Jumijo on Monday, February 26, 2018 5:51 PM

Add some styrofoam filler to the tank. Paint it and add clear gloss or white glue on top to simulate water. 

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Posted by nycmodel on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 10:33 AM

Elmer's glue will shrink quite a bit when it dries often requiring several applications.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:43 AM

mreagant
...I just need to "fill" a water tank next to a windmill....

Woodland Scenics and a lot of other "water" suppliers make a lot of dough selling their products to modellers who think that their modelled water has to be deep, rather than just look deep.

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Add some styrofoam filler to the tank. Paint it and add clear gloss...

This would work, or even a pour of plaster, painted and then given a clear, glossy finish.  Or, a disc of styrene, supported at the proper "depth" and finished in a like manner....you don't even need to simulate waves in a water tank.

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Posted by joe323 on Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:59 AM

I'm going to try this in a Dixie cup and see how it goes. Thinking about creating water for a swimming pool.

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Posted by mreagant on Friday, March 2, 2018 10:01 AM

Sorry for not responding to these recent replys sooner. Winter-time bug (not flu thankfully) took residence for a while. Think I'm going to try something in the bottom of a test cup with clear drying glue on the surface and see how that looks. Will report when that is accomplished.

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Posted by joe323 on Sunday, March 4, 2018 2:19 PM

I poured the glue in the cup and it's drying I will post when dry. 

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Posted by joe323 on Monday, March 12, 2018 6:24 AM

Well it is dry. Took about 72 hours  to fully harden.  Once dry it looks a bit like a hockey rink surface clear but with a white haze. It did shrink quite a bit vertically but otherwise was ok.

Could it be used yes but first I would try Elmers clear School Glue to see if it dries without the haze.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, March 12, 2018 7:06 AM

doctorwayne
  

Woodland Scenics and a lot of other "water" suppliers make a lot of dough selling their products to modellers who think that their modelled water has to be deep, rather than just look deep. 

This would work, or even a pour of plaster, painted and then given a clear, glossy finish.  

Wayne 

Gotta agree with Wayne.

I have poured WS Realistic Water 1/4" deep and waited weeks for it to clear. As Wayne suggests, you can get the same effect with sculpted plaster, painted and then coated with a clear, high gloss finish.

Rich

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