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Track Plans I scribbled

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Posted by jjdamnit on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:53 PM

Hello all,

This is the same way I planned my pike: graph paper, a mechanical pencil and a BIG eraser.

Nice work!!!

Hope this helps.

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Posted by DavidH66 on Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:40 PM

gregc
In Kansas, i don't understand the need for all the sidings. Near Liberal, I don't understand the need for the siding on the mainline leading to Liberal and I don't understand why the siding in Liberal has an end leading off the layout. There's a similar siding in Bronze that dead ends. In Bronze, the spur servicing the tanks (?) crossing 3 mainline tracks seems unnecessary. why not add a spur from the mainline track?

Both of those were meant as mainline crossings, I did struggle to find a way to fit the corsssing in Broze Hammer.

 

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Posted by gregc on Friday, December 22, 2017 7:11 AM

DavidH66
My goal is to get a trackplan into the magazine.

so are you just trying to come up with novel track plans, or something you would like?  Even if a plan is intended to model a real railroad, it needs to make sense as an operable model railroad.

here are some well designed trackplans in the space you have.  Both of these are relatively simple.   They don't have crowded sections of track or unnecessary trackwork.

  

 

 

i liked your idea in your Dakota & Wyoming plan that each side of the pennisula is served by separate branches from different sides of the layout.  I like the idea that even though tracks are near one another on the layout, they are far apart in terms of trackwork.   This isn't the case in your Norfolk plan; there is a crossover from the siding leading to the pennisula to the mainline.

Having staging in Kansas is a good idea.   I think the other plans would benefit if they had some.

But couldn't the staging tracks be longer if they were between the wall and mainline, and extended to the end of the layout.

And if the length of the staging tracks in Kansas is indicative of the length of trains, shouldn't the length of sidings  be similar?

The lower shelf staging in D&W needs to consider the grade between the main and staging shelves.

while you have at least 2 mainline sidings on several plans, The Dakota Plains plan more clearly supports two trains running in opposite directions.   It may be better if they were located more opposite one another, perhaps moving one near the top right of the plan.

 

In D&W, Deadwood has a siding.  I don't understand the need for 4 sidings at the station on the bottom of the plan where is joins the mainline.   Why not just have a single siding with the station in the middle?

In Dead, the end of the siding, where both tracks meet, leads to a spur for industry.  Shouldn't the end of the siding lead to the track going up.  It needs to be the length of a loco plus one or more cars.

In Kansas, i don't understand the need for all the sidings.   Near Liberal, I don't understand the need for the siding on the mainline leading to Liberal and I don't understand why the siding in Liberal has an end leading off the layout.   There's a similar siding in Bronze that dead ends.

In Bronze, the spur servicing the tanks (?) crossing 3 mainline tracks seems unnecessary. why not add a spur from the mainline track?

In Norfolk, I don't understand the purpose of the siding/dual-track going more than halway around the layout.   If you're willing to have 2 loops, why not have a crossover so that a train must go twice around the room to return to the same spot.

 

consider the purpose of each track and the necessity of each turnout ($$).

 

 

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Posted by Doughless on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:58 PM

Nice plans.  I think you got a bit aggressive on the frogs and curve radius in the peninsulas of the first two plans.  Stretching them about 18 more inches could probably cure it.

There's also a few wicked as drawn frogs along parts of the mainlines, but there is enough space to draw them properly with little impact to the plan, IMO.

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Posted by Lone Wolf and Santa Fe on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:42 PM

Very nice job on all of them. You could probably fit in a loop or a horseshoe curve on the peninsulas instead of having them dead end. It would allow you to have a longer mainline and give you the ability to stay with your train while walking around the room.

You don't need a protractor, what you need is a drafting compass. You can find these at office supply stores. With them you can draw curves that match your minimum radius.

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Posted by NWP SWP on Tuesday, December 19, 2017 3:58 PM

Nice work, how long did you spend on each of them?

Steve

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Track Plans I scribbled
Posted by DavidH66 on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 2:54 PM

Here's some track plans I've made when doodling. All are hand drawn and done freehanded. (No protractor so turns are a little rougher than they should be). My goal is to get a trackplan into the magazine. I figured I'd scan these and show them off to gauge how I'm doing.

KANSAS, OKLAHOMA & SOUTHERNS Dodge City - Lubbock Main.

The KO&S is a protofreelanced class I line. This particular model represents a portion of the lines Lubbock, TX / Dodge City, KS main and includes the fictional town of Bronze Hammer, OK, where it interchanges with its ownBoise City, OK / Woodward, OK line, and the prototypical town of Liberal Kansas, where it interchanges with the Rock Island. the Layouts time frame is set in 1978-1984 with the end of the Rock and the start of UP Dominance in the west. Operations are centered around the KO&S's attempts to turn a profit when your interchange partners are dying or getting swallowed up.


NORFOLK, CAROLINA, &DANVILLE plus the MECKLENBERG & CONCORD



The NC&D/M&C is an excercise in trying to find balance. Balance between letting the trains run in a circle and prototype style operations. The NC&D is a proto-freelanced Regional centered mostly in NC & Virginia that I actually plan on using once I get my layout started. the line around "the Walls" is the NC&D's mainline from Charlotte, NC eastward. the penninsula is fictional Carolina shortline "The Mecklenberg & Concord" which surprisingly is actually inspired by the Vandalia railroad in Illinois. 

THE DAKOTA PLAINS RAILROAD

 

This line is a fictional shortline set in the early 80s South Dakota. It represents the fictional Dakota Plains railroad who recently bought an abandoned Millwaukee Road branch that was dumped in the 1978 mass abandonment.  This layout was inspired by a 1982 article in Railfan & Railroad on the Dakota Rail company and centers around a fictional South Dakota farming community called McKesson.

THE DAKOTA AND WYOMING


The Dakota and Wyoming is a modern shortline loosely based off of Rapid City Pierre & Eastern property that the G&W owns. Unlike my other pikes, this one has an assumed staging yard under the layout. :P


So what do you all think, what are my strenghts? Weaknesses? Thoughts in general?


 

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