Yes blobs ect. are an option and I have a built 48"x48" module that could be on an end with a high steel testle, but like I said, I want to explore all options so I don't have to use it.
So the space is basically a square G? Do either of the ends have enough space for a turnback blob or does it have to be strictly a shelf-looking type of layout, like drawn above?
- Douglas
Funny thing is last time I knew what I wanted but came accross better ideas later so I fiqured I'd ask to get some fresh ideas, fiqure as the plan progresses I will start to narrow things down as people add imput or ideas I would have never thought of. Lots of armchair people out there that just might have the right ideas.
Thanks for starting this thread since I also will soon move to a larger home w/ bigger space for a layout. Nothing wrong with figuring out how you want the trains to run besides the benchwork.
Going through a few sheets of graph paper helps conceptualize things. Generating ideas is easy with the track plan database available in MR. What a great resource to cobble together an interesting layout.
Yeah, people jump to conclusions. Me, I have a new second hand printer and scanner and it just dose mot jump through hoops for me like the old one that died, computer died too, all around this selling and buying and move, think the world was trying to tell me something. Anyway the last layout looked good when veiwed overall but some of the scenes needed a bit more refining or alot so a new start is good. While we are at it, has anyone found an easy to use photo sharing site since the bucket kinda hit the bucket (my attempt at humor).
I'll take full responsibility for my 2" error. That will be important when you are cutting benchwork and laying track. For now we are trying to come to the campfire and discuss this.
I hope I didn't offend anyone. Sometimes Internet humor falls on it's face.
I see a lot of posts that don't give much info and I think did he mean this or that. Sometimes I get the wrong end of the stick and sometimes there are 3 or 4 more sticks that the OP neglected to mention. This thread seemed to make sense to me, maybe the other threads made sense to you and not to me.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
Sorry not to submit pics but still in the process of a move, alot of stuff still packed, lucky I finally got internet service, that took over a month and just straightened everthing out, I think, when I get the bill I will know for sure.
You have the space exactly except the 75" goes on the other end, also the 130 should read 132, did I give the wrong measurement before?
Apologies to the OP but you guys are really barking up a tree that doesn't need barking. I hypothesize a 25" wide layout, a place for important stuff like beer or a work bench and a place where SWMBO sends him when he has had too much beer and is snoring.
Oops I gave him too much room for his gold or beer, one will have to go. And it doesn't have to conform to the shaded area there could be a mushroom or a helix.
Whether it's a snore room, Arizona bedrock that pops up in the basement, or all the stuff his son left when he moved in with a girlfriend, it is not usable space.
I suppose the East limb could be coming off the South side instead of the North. Does that change anything at this preliminary stage of the discussion?
Not clear to me, either. The numbers and description described do not close.
An old saying, "One layout sketch is worth thousands of words."
Robert
LINK to SNSR Blog
7j43k rrebell ...but to make it aposolutly clear, going counter clockwise we have on the north wall 95", west is 150", south is 132" and east is 75". I got an A in plane geometry. I have taken several drafting courses. I studied engineering in college. I work in the building trades. It may be clear to you. It is not clear to me. And I am one of the ones you are trying to communicate with. And. It is not clear to me. I think I'll put my energy elsewhere. Ed
rrebell ...but to make it aposolutly clear, going counter clockwise we have on the north wall 95", west is 150", south is 132" and east is 75".
...but to make it aposolutly clear, going counter clockwise we have on the north wall 95", west is 150", south is 132" and east is 75".
I got an A in plane geometry. I have taken several drafting courses. I studied engineering in college. I work in the building trades.
It may be clear to you. It is not clear to me. And I am one of the ones you are trying to communicate with. And. It is not clear to me.
I think I'll put my energy elsewhere.
Ed
rrebell As an extra note, no obstructions in this space except for a light switch all the way to the right on the 95" wall.
As an extra note, no obstructions in this space except for a light switch all the way to the right on the 95" wall.
So you descend into the space via stairs, or climb into the space the same way? No doors? No windows?
What's your vision if you are willing to go so tight on the curves? If an ISL, why not #5 turnouts or higher, and curves in the 28" range?
I think I see Ed's point: you're asking for a way to get from A to B, and you're about to get questions about speed, two wheels or four (or more), what axle load capacity....etc.
BigDaddy edit Assuming you aren't purposely hiding the electrical panel that can't be covered in the middle of your longest run; the dimensions are plenty big. For once it seems clear to me that you are describing uninterrupted buildable space. I don't see how it's helpful to know where obstructions are outside of those dimensions. Other than that, I agree with everything Ed said, go bigger on the curves. It really comes down to what you want, not what we think. In that era you can model branch lines, or big city Class 1 railroads. There was a thread on "must haves" on your next model railroad. I'm looking to model small bridges, coal country, an engine service facility and a turntable. I have no interest in steel mills, box cars on barges, logging or big city skyscrapers. That doesn't mean I have made better choices someone who models all the stuff I don't want. It's all personal tastes. Take a look at that thread and John Armstrong's book on Modeling for Realistic Operation and get back to us with a plan.
edit Assuming you aren't purposely hiding the electrical panel that can't be covered in the middle of your longest run; the dimensions are plenty big. For once it seems clear to me that you are describing uninterrupted buildable space. I don't see how it's helpful to know where obstructions are outside of those dimensions. Other than that, I agree with everything Ed said, go bigger on the curves.
It really comes down to what you want, not what we think. In that era you can model branch lines, or big city Class 1 railroads.
There was a thread on "must haves" on your next model railroad. I'm looking to model small bridges, coal country, an engine service facility and a turntable. I have no interest in steel mills, box cars on barges, logging or big city skyscrapers. That doesn't mean I have made better choices someone who models all the stuff I don't want. It's all personal tastes.
Take a look at that thread and John Armstrong's book on Modeling for Realistic Operation and get back to us with a plan.
SeeYou190 I tried to draw this space using your description. . Is the space not rectangular? Am I missing something? . -Kevin .
I tried to draw this space using your description.
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Is the space not rectangular? Am I missing something?
-Kevin
Living the dream.
Sorry for any confusion, just getting things up and running (no trains yet) in the new place, taking care of issue upon issue. So as for the space, the numbers are correct, just draw all the with right angles but to make it aposolutly clear, going counter clockwise we have on the north wall 95", west is 150", south is 132" and east is 75". Last layout was mostly 18" curves, sure would like larger but not a must have. As far as point to point or other, had a large dogbone before but found that to be not needed except when testing trackwork or an engine.
One idea is that you give a better description of the space. Four numbers in a row is a start, but it's not really too helpful. A drawing would be ideal. If that's not possible, then a VERY clear verbal description could work.
My other idea is to have at least a 22" mainline minimum radius. Sure, your equipment will likely take the 18"; but remember that, back in the 1930's, the curves were pretty much the same as they are now: a LOT larger than 18". Sharp mainline curves just don't look railroady--the gentler, the better.
You say the layout "can be point to point or whatever...". I suggest you think on this a bit more. The easy resolution is to have a continuous running possibility, but to have the exposed trackage LOOK mostly like point to point. I like to sit down once in awhile and just watch a train run--hence the continuous running option. But I'm not at all impressed with an oval of track on a board. That explains my second point.
Just moved and have a new layout space, any ideas to get me started would be great. Space available is 95"x150"x132"x75" around the walls. Room is bigger but the rest is compermised by doors and things. Setting is late 1930's with 18" radius curves being fine as longest cars are aprox. 40'. lots of freight and some logging would be fine. This can be point to point or whatever, this is a new space for me and I want to build on others ideas and not stuck with my on percepions except for era.