That Chicago bridge and the history was interestingBrian
Brian
My Layout Plan
Interesting new Plan Consideration
Here is a link to the bridge in Chgo that I wanted to originally copy, but it required more vertical space than I had and would have been hard to compress. Aside from that getting drawings were not possible. I know for a fact that this one is still up...so far up that it is stationary in the UP position, but no longer used. I have actually seen this one. Quite an enormous structure to see straight up in the air, all the time. Take a look at the link and read the story:
http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2014/02/04/a-chicago-favorite-remains-open-for-all-to-see/
Take Care!
Frank
Any counterweighted lifting leaf bridge is a bascule bridge. The ones commonly used around CHicago are mostly fixed-trunnion type, with the complex looking counterweight structure. The Scherzer is the kind that rolls on a track at the base, and there is one other that is quite rare when the trunnion at the top rolls back along a rail.
So a Scherzer lift bridge is a bascule bridge but not all bascule bridges are Scherzers.
--Randy
Modeling the Reading Railroad in the 1950's
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zstripe Well it is not a Bascule bridge....it is a Scherzer Rolling Lift bridge.
Well it is not a Bascule bridge....it is a Scherzer Rolling Lift bridge.
Rich
Alton Junction
Ruderunner,
Well it is not a Bascule bridge per say....it is a Scherzer Rolling Lift bridge. I made an error when I stated that it is still working. I had looked at so many that I confused that one with one built in Chgo that is still up. The one I modeled after is the one that was the Cuyahoga River bridge. It was replaced in 1956:
Click ''next'' by the photos and you will see more pic's of it.
https://bridgehunter.com/oh/cuyahoga/bh61128/
zstripe Vsmith, Good luck with trying to find one, which won't cost an arm and leg......then again they are also limited to only a select few...swing bridge, Bascule, Lift, Girder lift, etc. I did quite a bit of research on what was available and just could not find anything out there that would fit My scene.....had to be double track, look like it would lift, most important fit the space, which was limited vertically because of an angled ceiling. I decided after more research on a Scherzer Rolling lift Bridge which would fit with a little compression and still look like it lifts. I started with actual plans of the bridge and any and all I could find of all the details. I purchased a Walthers double track Truss bridge and the rest is scratch-built from various, Plastruct, Evergreen, Central Valley, laced girders and ME Bridge Flex code 83 track and the rest is history. The bridge in itself, is complete. I'm working on the rest of the area......which is taking a lot of time for I am repainted the walls and so forth. A few shots of whats going on......: The plan of the real bridge in Cleveland OH......still works to this day: Adding scratch built parts to the modified Walthers Bridge: Where the bridge will be going on the other side of the working swing bridge where the brown piece is that holds the double track mainline: And a shot of what I have so far for the Scratch/Bash Bridge: The interior of the control tower building. Started out as a Walthers ATSF signal tower that I cut off the top floor, removed two sets of windows so it would fit, the rest is scratch-built: I do have a source for videos on making a select few bridges.....when I get a chance I'll post them here. Take the plunge.......and scratch/bash one....... Take Care! Frank
Vsmith,
Good luck with trying to find one, which won't cost an arm and leg......then again they are also limited to only a select few...swing bridge, Bascule, Lift, Girder lift, etc. I did quite a bit of research on what was available and just could not find anything out there that would fit My scene.....had to be double track, look like it would lift, most important fit the space, which was limited vertically because of an angled ceiling. I decided after more research on a Scherzer Rolling lift Bridge which would fit with a little compression and still look like it lifts. I started with actual plans of the bridge and any and all I could find of all the details. I purchased a Walthers double track Truss bridge and the rest is scratch-built from various, Plastruct, Evergreen, Central Valley, laced girders and ME Bridge Flex code 83 track and the rest is history. The bridge in itself, is complete. I'm working on the rest of the area......which is taking a lot of time for I am repainted the walls and so forth. A few shots of whats going on......:
The plan of the real bridge in Cleveland OH......still works to this day:
Adding scratch built parts to the modified Walthers Bridge:
Where the bridge will be going on the other side of the working swing bridge where the brown piece is that holds the double track mainline:
And a shot of what I have so far for the Scratch/Bash Bridge:
The interior of the control tower building. Started out as a Walthers ATSF signal tower that I cut off the top floor, removed two sets of windows so it would fit, the rest is scratch-built:
I do have a source for videos on making a select few bridges.....when I get a chance I'll post them here.
Take the plunge.......and scratch/bash one.......
Zstripe, what bridge is this model based off of? I can't think of any active bascule in Cleveland anymore. Extant yes but not active.
Modeling the Cleveland and Pittsburgh during the PennCentral era starting on the Cleveland lakefront and ending in Mingo junction
Good finds there Ed.
BTW, I was inferring that the CSX bridge I posted was anything like the Tyco one. You found some real ones that look something like the model bridges
railandsail real one, CSX
real one, CSX
I dunno. Looks a lot like this one at Wingo on the NWP:
CSX bridge across Manatee River:
Note the subtle differences. Actually, I'm not seeing many. Gets a person thinking there might be a buncha these little fellas around these United States. And in Canada:
Ed
saw this on an atlas forumThe Tyco kit is now or was a Pola kit. It has also been sold by AHM.
Here is an interesting one,.... that might be kitbashed with an old truss bridge kithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnE6_LlebiA
...take note of how the rails join one another at the end
Have fun with your trains
What was the water span distance of those Tyco/Model Power bridges?
I just might have one of those in my storage trailer?
Didn't Tyco make one like this? ....might find one at a train show.
A 12" vertical lift bridge in HO scale seems a bit short as a span. Is there any way you can lengthen it to, say, 15" or 16"? That would be more typical of the various vertical lift bridges that span major rivers in the U.S.
vsmithFrank that's excellent work. I was afraid that was going to be the case. I looked at the CMR link but they are too large for the allocated space and $$$$, looks like I will have to start planning on kitbashing something.
vsmith looks like I will have to start planning on kitbashing something.
The Kalmbach book "Model Railroad Bridges & Trestles" contains an exellent article by Al B. Armitage Compact Drawbridge with a lot of photos and drawings of a Northwestern Pacific Scherzer rolling lift bridge. There are two more bascule bridges.Regards, Volker
One You-tube video of Many to look at about various how to build bridges and how to build a bridge from scratch.....take a look at them...should give You ideas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y6QkJmYNzo
Excellent work, Frank.
Nice job, Frank!
Walthers has a bascule bridge again: https://www.walthers.com/operating-single-track-railroad-bascule-bridge-kit-33-1-2-x-3-x-11-quot-83-7-x-7-5-x-27-5-cm
and a swing bridge: https://www.walthers.com/double-track-railroad-swing-bridge-kit-27-x-6-3-8-x-7-9-16-quot-69-x-16-2-x-19-3cm
Regards, Volker
One of our members took one, I think it was the single track one, widened to 2 tracks because i don;t think the dounble track one was available, and made it operating, completely with ship navigation lights and everything. It wasn't yet built into a module whe he first showed it off during the Timonium show but the CMR people were quite impressed by what he pulled off.
CMR makes two different types of lift bridges in HO scale, but they are pricey.
http://www.custommodelrailroads.com/ho.aspx
Seems to me I have seen where someone took a through truss bridge, made towers to make a lift bridge. Wish I could remember where it was. I don't remember if it was something in a magazine or less likely something I Googled. Don't think it was youtube at the time, but could be now.
I'll keep thinking. (Dangerous!)
Good luck,
Richard