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Georgetown & Allen Mountain Railroad 5.0

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Georgetown & Allen Mountain Railroad 5.0
Posted by michaelrose55 on Monday, April 24, 2017 7:31 PM

I'm doing it again, what can I say. By now there must be plenty of people shaking their heads, I'm sure. I can only agree.

But with every layout I built I learned something so it was always worth the effort. I'm hoping that this new layout will help me get to the next level of model railroading as all it's predecessors did.

Here's the new plan as it exists today:

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, April 24, 2017 8:21 PM

Michael:

Lots happening!

I'm guessing this is N scale?

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Monday, April 24, 2017 8:24 PM

hon30critter

Michael:

Lots happening!

I'm guessing this is N scale?

Dave

 

Yep, this is N scale.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 1:01 AM

Michael,

Allow me some open words.

I was sad to see you abandoning your German HO scale layout project shortly before you were able to put in the golden spike. I liked this project very much and thought you had a great layout in the making there. There were a few tight spots on this layout, but nothing that could not have been solved. I was not able to follow your decision of dismantling the layout.

While I also like your new N scale project, I see a big issue with it coming up. It is a very ambitious, huge project, which requires an awful amount of time and dedication to complete to a a stage allowing you to run trains. It will take years to achieve that, unless you have a couple of people assisting you. It also takes more than just one person to operate a layout of this size and complexity. Even if I had the means to embark on such a journey, I would not do it. I am more than certain, that I would lose my steam for this project after a few years, as interests shift.

I know that you have quite a room at your disposal for a layout and that there is a strong temptation to put a club-sized layout into it, but I still find the "less is more" rule a suitable guideline. If I were to walk in your mocassins, I´d travel a different route to model railroading happiness - a "simple"  O scale or even 1 scale (1/32) layout with a prototypical track arrangement!

Something like this:

Just because I´d love to sit in the engineer´s seat!

Just my My 2 Cents

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:10 AM

Ulrich,

The size of the layout doesn't bother me. It will probably never get finished but that's good. Who needs a finished layout? What would I be doing?

And please remember my struggle with the size of H0. Anything even bigger would be unthinkable for me... 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:10 AM

Here's an overview of the layout room as it looks today. I have rearranged the old bench work and added some new bench work along the western wall of the room. Next I will have to adjust all the legs to make it as level as possible and then the track laying starts again Big Smile!

 

 

 

 

 

Luckily I had used the old east staging yard as a temporary shelf for all kinds of stuff when I cleared the layout room for the H0 layout. That means that the staging yard is still there and can be used again!

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Posted by ROBERT PETRICK on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:33 AM

michaelrose55

And please remember my struggle with the size of H0. Anything even bigger would be unthinkable for me... 

I didn't know you were struggling with HO. I don't want to bring up any unpleasant memories, particularly since you've decided to move forward, but what was the nature of your struggles?

I model N, and I always have. I kinda like the highly-detailed models available in HO (and the huge variety of HO stuff in general), so I might build a diorama or two just for fun, but a full scale layout would take up just too much room, even though I have an entire garage available. I have plenty of work to do on my N-scale layout, so for now I will press on with enthusiasm and high fives all around.

Glad to see you're back at it. Good luck.

Robert 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:42 AM

ROBERT PETRICK

I didn't know you were struggling with HO. I don't want to bring up any unpleasant memories, particularly since you've decided to move forward, but what was the nature of your struggles?

Robert,

Like you said, H0 takes up too much room and I couldn't make it work. I'm probably spoiled by N scale and didn't realize it until now. Better late than never!

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Posted by brochhau on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:22 AM

Very neat! Very ambitious! I'm curious the dimensions of the room?

I understand completely about your HO arguments. I have a 18x30 room and I can't get in what I want unless I go extra levels, which I'm not doing. My 9 year old son has been tempting me to try N. So I'm going to follow your layout build closely!

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:40 AM

brochhau

Very neat! Very ambitious! I'm curious the dimensions of the room?

The room including the 2 staging areas is 41 x 28'.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 11:40 AM

michaelrose55
And please remember my struggle with the size of H0. Anything even bigger would be unthinkable for me...

That I can relate to! My attempt to build a layout in On30 failed as I utterly underestimated the real estate requirement for buildings. If you are used to N scale dimesion, stepping up to HO scale has about the same effect.

I will follow your new layout thread with growing interest!

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 3:26 PM

Today I asked my wife to help me and clean the floor of the railroad room for me:

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Posted by mbinsewi on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 3:47 PM

And she's even smiling! and not throwing the bucket of water at you! Laugh

Mike.

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:15 PM

I just couldn't help myself but I had to unbox a few locomotives and cars to really get back into the N scale mood:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:51 PM

Now I have unpacked everything. All the boxes have been put away in storage, I again have an understanding of what I have and what I need. I'm amazed that there are 25 locomotives without a train! So for the foreseeable future I'll be buying nothing but freight cars...

 

 

 

 

It even looks good from the layout room:

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 6:37 PM

I worked for another hour and cleared the benchwork where the first town of the new G&AM will be built - Gustavsburg again.

 

 

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Posted by SouthPenn on Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:38 AM

Have you ever posted pictures of your original N scale layout.?

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:08 AM

SouthPenn

Have you ever posted pictures of your original N scale layout.?

 

Not here but you can look at it at the MRH forum: http://model-railroad-hobbyist.com/node/14886

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Posted by Onewolf on Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:59 AM

michaelrose55

Today I asked my wife to help me and clean the floor of the railroad room for me:

I'm not that brave....  She asks me why I keep my train room much cleaner than I keep our house.  Embarrassed

Modeling an HO gauge freelance version of the Union Pacific Oregon Short Line and the Utah Railway around 1957 in a world where Pirates from the Great Salt Lake founded Ogden, UT.

- Photo album of layout construction -

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:52 PM

I just took an after lunch break and got me some new plywood. Next will be making N scale roadbed again...

 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:02 PM

I started making roadbed and pinning it to the plywood:

 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Friday, April 28, 2017 3:18 PM

I've made the roadbed parts for the nice 40' curve coming out of the tunnel. There will be a small ditch/stream that runs from behind the roundhouse to the fascia so a small bridge is needed. I decided on a stone arch bridge and started by making the inner core.

 

 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:25 PM

I'm sitting at my CAD PC designing the roadbed for the Gustavsburg station while my laser is producing standard roadbed elements:

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Saturday, April 29, 2017 7:11 PM

After several hours most of the pieces for the Gustavsburg station have been produced:

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:32 PM

Hi Michael:

I'm guessing again, but I suspect you won't need two levels of roadbed for N scale?

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Sunday, April 30, 2017 8:09 AM

hon30critter

Hi Michael:

I'm guessing again, but I suspect you won't need two levels of roadbed for N scale?

Dave

 

No, one is enough for N scale. Saves time and money Big Smile!

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Posted by mbinsewi on Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:20 AM

Maybe I missed something in your earlier threads and layouts, but is that road bed something you lay out and print?  And does it stay in place, with the tracks layed directly on it?  And what is the bed made from?  So many questions Laugh.

You sure have a patient wife, and an obviously huge budget.  I think by now, my family would've done an "intervention", and I be safely put away! LaughLaugh.

I love to watch the progress on these huge builds.

Mike.

 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Sunday, April 30, 2017 12:20 PM

mbinsewi

Maybe I missed something in your earlier threads and layouts, but is that road bed something you lay out and print?  And does it stay in place, with the tracks layed directly on it?  And what is the bed made from?  So many questions Laugh.

You sure have a patient wife, and an obviously huge budget.  I think by now, my family would've done an "intervention", and I be safely put away! LaughLaugh.

I love to watch the progress on these huge builds.

Mike.

 

 

Mike,

The roadbed is made of taskboard. I have my own laser engraver/cutter so making it is easy. It will get glued down, painted, and then the track gets glued on top. The advantage is that I can produce roadbed with the exact dimensions and radius that I need and that the engraved lines help with installing track exactly where it belongs.

As to the patience of my wife, she's a saint!

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Sunday, April 30, 2017 4:32 PM

Gustavsburg is slowly taking shape. Plenty of different pieces of roadbed were needed for this but it's all coming together!

 

 

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Posted by michaelrose55 on Monday, May 01, 2017 1:09 PM

I made it around the curve and into the Georgetown peninsula:

 

 

 

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