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Is their any pens that wright on plaster and paint?

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Is their any pens that wright on plaster and paint?
Posted by jmk3438 on Sunday, December 18, 2016 8:15 PM

For the life of me, i can't find any pens that have the capabilty of writing on dark color acrylic paints over plaster .   I've purtchased paint pens from hobby lobby, walmart and micheals with no success.  

I've tried using paint with fine brush ( masking tape between) but the paint somehow seeps thru underneath  and it doesnt create a fine line. 

Any suggestions ?

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, December 18, 2016 8:52 PM

Hi jmk:

I have had great success with the 'Sharpie' brand paint pens. The paint pens seem to put out lots of paint and they will write on just about everthing.

One thing you might consider doing is to seal the plaster with a couple of coats of Dullcote or Mat Medium even though it has already been painted. Anything you can do to reduce the absorbancy will help.

Dave

 

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Posted by j. c. on Monday, December 19, 2016 10:57 AM

jmk3438

For the life of me, i can't find any pens that have the capabilty of writing on dark color acrylic paints over plaster .   I've purtchased paint pens from hobby lobby, walmart and micheals with no success.  

I've tried using paint with fine brush ( masking tape between) but the paint somehow seeps thru underneath  and it doesnt create a fine line. 

Any suggestions ?

 

how fine a line are you wanting like .050 or finer? and what are you making  lines or lettering ?

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Posted by n2mopac on Monday, December 19, 2016 2:12 PM

Be careful with Sharpie. If you use Sharpie permanent ink and later use alcohol as a wetting agent the ink will wick up through many types of material and make a mess of everything. I once used Sharpie permanent ink to mark out turnout positions on the subroadbed of a yard. Even though it was covered by cork roadbed, when I used alcohol to wet ballast of glueing, the ink wicked up through the cork and ballast and I had to tear out a bunch of stuff to fix the mess. 

Ron

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Posted by CGW121 on Monday, December 19, 2016 2:28 PM

jmk3438

For the life of me, i can't find any pens that have the capabilty of writing on dark color acrylic paints over plaster .   I've purtchased paint pens from hobby lobby, walmart and micheals with no success.  

I've tried using paint with fine brush ( masking tape between) but the paint somehow seeps thru underneath  and it doesnt create a fine line. 

Any suggestions ?

 

 

Use a colored pencil

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Posted by CentralGulf on Monday, December 19, 2016 2:47 PM

n2mopac

Be careful with Sharpie. If you use Sharpie permanent ink and later use alcohol as a wetting agent the ink will wick up through many types of material and make a mess of everything. I once used Sharpie permanent ink to mark out turnout positions on the subroadbed of a yard. Even though it was covered by cork roadbed, when I used alcohol to wet ballast of glueing, the ink wicked up through the cork and ballast and I had to tear out a bunch of stuff to fix the mess. 

Thanks for pointing that out. It looks like all Sharpies use alcohol solvents. Some of the company's products also have additional solvents, according to their web site.

I will be more careful using their markers in the future.

CG

 

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, December 19, 2016 11:25 PM

Ron:

Are you referring to Sharpie ink markers or Sharpie paint pens? I was recommending the paint pens. I just tested a paint pen mark with 70% isopropyl alcohol and it didn't touch it. I suppose it might after long periods of exposure but typically if you are working on open surfaces the alcohol should evaporate fairly quickly. The OP was talking about drawing on the surface I believe.

FWIW, I have had experience with Sharpie marker ink dissolving on contact with alcohol.

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Posted by n2mopac on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 4:04 PM

hon30critter

Ron:

Are you referring to Sharpie ink markers or Sharpie paint pens? I was recommending the paint pens. I just tested a paint pen mark with 70% isopropyl alcohol and it didn't touch it. I suppose it might after long periods of exposure but typically if you are working on open surfaces the alcohol should evaporate fairly quickly. The OP was talking about drawing on the surface I believe.

FWIW, I have had experience with Sharpie marker ink dissolving on contact with alcohol.

Dave

 

That is correct. I just wanted readers to make sure they were using the paint pens, not the permanent ink markers. That is why I specified permanent ink markers in my post. Thanks.

Ron

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:02 PM

n2mopac
That is why I specified permanent ink markers in my post. Thanks.

Sorry Ron, I didn't mean to question you. I just wanted the readers to understand clearly which type of markers were being recommended, and since I had never rigorously tested to solubility of the Sharpie paint pens your comment raised an important point.

Cheers,

Dave 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, December 29, 2016 9:33 AM

Back in the day... say about 45 years ago... LION used to sell Good Humor ice cream from a truck. Him would give free ice cream to kids with casts. Him would mark the cast with his trademark CAT, that way him know that the kid already got his free icec ream (after all such freebies came out of my own pocket).

Any majyck marker did just fine, so would a pen or pencil, so the issue boils down to, is the plaster dry?

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