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alternatives to Atlas push buttons for turnouts

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alternatives to Atlas push buttons for turnouts
Posted by williamsb on Friday, January 29, 2016 8:41 PM

I am considering building a new control panel for my railroad. I am using the Atlas controllers. They work good but I would like to find something smaller perhaps even lighted to indicate which way the turnout is lined. Is there anything available. Thanks for any ideas.

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Posted by Sierra Man on Friday, January 29, 2016 11:22 PM

Good evening William. I use single pole double throw momentary toggle switches. on-off-on. From Radio Shack down here. #36-220 mini is on the side. With these I use green and red led's Also from Radio Shack. Green part #276-0271. I don't have a red on to give you the # but it matches the green. The wiring is pretty simple, and I have a diagram, but i'll be darned if I can find it. I'll post it if I find it.

Have fun

Phil, CEO, Eastern Sierra Pacific Railroad.  We know where you are going, before you do!

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Posted by williamsb on Friday, January 29, 2016 11:34 PM

Thank you. Exactly what i was looking for.

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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, January 30, 2016 4:38 AM

Hi williamsb

Have a look at Atlas web site they also do a lighted point switch might not be suitable but have a look.

Failing that Jaycar or Radio Shack do, on on sprung to centre off switches

and others that will be suitable for MRR point control

regards John

 

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Posted by nealknows on Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:04 AM

I use momentary pushbuttons that are available online. I paid $0.50 each and I've installed them on my panels. The'ye miniature in size. Places like LED-switch and all Electronics carry them. Just make sure you but they ones that are ALWAYS open and when you push them it completes the circuit. I bought the wrong ones ONCE and watched 6 Atlas machines go up in smoke. I have no financial interest in either company.

Neal

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Posted by steemtrayn on Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:07 AM

A brass screw on the control panel. Just tap it with a test lead pefore the train runs over the switch.

 

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:14 AM

This assumes that you have a schematic track layout on your panel, that you put the controls on the panel itself. and that you use 2-coil switch machines.

Implant a 3-5 amp capacity normally off pushbutton at the point where the two track lines meet.  Then install an inexpensive toggle (DPST, or DPDT if you need to power a hot frog) between the diverging track lines.  Switch machine power goes to the pushbutton, then to the toggle, which directs it to one coil or the other.  The direction the toggle is thrown tells you which track was last selected.

The toggle doesn't have to be a high power type, since it will never make or break the circuit.  The pushbutton has to be robust, since twin coil machines have a high current draw.

An alternative method substitutes studs (brass machine screws) in the diverging track lines, with power being applied through a probe (I use a large stereo plug.)  The studs are wired directly to the appropriate switch machine coils.  This is the absolutely least expensive way to power switch machines.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, January 30, 2016 6:55 AM

LION build simple control board

Well, is *simple* for a LION

Indicators show location of trains, not positon of switches. Position of LEVERS show position of turnouts.

 

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Posted by John Busby on Saturday, January 30, 2016 7:35 AM

Hi Broadway Lion.

You have a very strange idea of simple I have seen diagrams and photo's

of what runs your system, and simple err no I don't think so.

Well made definatly but simple no.

regards John

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:35 PM

A guy named Ken Stapleton makes an miniature electronics board that includes a toggle and circuitry to drive a twin-coil machine and two LEDs to indicate the postion of the points.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/kstapleton3/Index.html

I have a few of these and they work fine.  As I recall, you can buy them assembled or unassembled.

It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. 

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