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Old turnout with frog removed

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Old turnout with frog removed
Posted by TBat55 on Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:57 PM

Here's what a turnout looks like with no frog if you want to model an abandoned spur.

A short section of rail replaces the frog:

short rail inserted at frog

frogless

And one point rail becomes a stub:

point rail removed

stub

Terry

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:21 PM

I've seen areas where the Southern Pacific did that many years ago, and we did it on our club layout to insure that no one would attempt to use an 'abandoned' turnout.

But your photos are good for those who have not seen it done and are looking for something different on their layout.

Thanks for posting that.

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Posted by Guy Papillon on Sunday, May 31, 2015 5:59 PM

Useful information and pictures. Yes

Guy

Modeling CNR in the 50's

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Posted by dknelson on Sunday, May 31, 2015 8:27 PM

I have seen that elsewhere -- an interesting detail to model - and if I recall correctly that is done where the railroad has not petitioned to abandon the spur but has merely put it out of service.  The frog is easily reinstalled should business warrant it.

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Posted by tomikawaTT on Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:03 PM

Saw one just like that on the western outskirts of Rapid City 30 or so years ago.  Went to a platform outside a building materials warehouse.

The platform was made of timbers even more weathered than the ties in the spur, and corrugated iron siding had been installed right across whatever doors that might have been there thirty years earlier.

Chuck (Modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)

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Posted by cv_acr on Monday, June 1, 2015 10:04 AM

Some of the old passing sidings on the northern half of the former Algoma Central Railway have had the frog removed at one end to make them a single ended siding. Trains are short and few in number, and the only meets typically involve the passenger train or maintenance vehicles, so trains back in and out of the sidings.

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Posted by Software Tools on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:29 AM

It is commonly referred to as "straight railing" a switch.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, June 7, 2015 9:09 AM

Here is similar on the route of the LION

These switches were installed when the Dyckman Street station was the end of the line, and trains had to relay here. Eventually the line was extended to 242nd Street with its two track terminal and double sicicsor switch. In therey this crossing was supposed to remain in service, but it did not.

What happened is that the interlocking frame has only 36 slots for levers, switches and signals, and management wanted more levers for signals at 242nd Street. So these switches were put out of service (The tortoise machines removed) and spiked into place. The lever slots were then reassigned to signals.

Now if an unforseen occurs, and this crossing is needed, MOW will have to go out there, remove this barrier, and then the switches be handled from the ground by flagmen under the command from the tower.

 

ROAR

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