Petro/Chemical

[Anonymous]

I'm doing a petro chemical layout, trying to get the price of gas down. I'm having a hard time locating any photos of how a tanker gets "off loaded".

[ndbprr]

99%+ of oil today comes by pipeline. Most tank cars use 2-4" metal clad hoses with camlock or OPW quick disconnect fittings. That has been the standard since I started working in the early 60's.

[cwclark]

walthers has a tank car loading / unloading station you may want to check out...i/m about to install one with 3 refinery kits....my wife is gonna get me that for christmas!....chuck[:D]

[Anonymous]

Thanks, i'm trying to do a post WWII setup. I like the big steamer era. So I thought a few derricks
and stuff like that. With oil tanks would be cool

[Anonymous]

In Linden, NJ, the large tankers sit just off shore, and barges are brought out to unload crude.

There are also two side-by-side underground pipes that connect Linden NJ with Louisiana and south Texas to transfer petro products. They were built during WWII when German u-boats were targeting our east coast tankers.

JIm

[jrbarney]

D Davis,
You didn't state what scale you are working in. If you're looking for refinery gear in either N or Z, you might want to visit the Searails site:
http://www.searails.com
And, if you're looking for tanks, valves, piping and similar gear in several scales,
visit the Plastruct site:
http://www.plastruct.com
Bob
NMRA Life 0543

[Anonymous]

At my plant we off-load a chemical that must be maintained above 300Degrees F to remain liquid. For safety reasons it is unloaded through a dip pipe mounted on the top manway of the tanker using nitrogen to pressure the tanker and force the product up the dip pipe to tank storage. You can not hardly tell the difference between a tanker being loaded or unloaded. I have the Walthers loading/ unloading kit on my layout. I use the plastic stir stix for piping. I have a couple of tanks that I've "insulated" with the shiny muffler repair tape from Wal-Mart. It is an excellent representation of the thin metal sheet covering the insulation on storage tanks. I don't remember where I found the pumps mounted on a base with the eledtric drive motor, but they are a deadringer for the Goulds pumps we used for transfer. I have two transfer stations where piping comes together and hoses are used to connect the various process, holding, & storage tanks. I also use the plastruct valves mentioned earlier.

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: D Davis: ...I'm trying to do a post WWII setup. .... So I thought a few derricks
and stuff like that. With oil tanks....

Keep in mind that the derricks are there for the well drilling. When the well goes into production the derrick is removed and moved to another site, and what you probably would have are 'horse-head pumps' (also known as walking beams, pump jacks, nodding donkeys, grasshoppers, etc depending on local usage). These would extract the oil and pump it to local storage tanks where it would be picked up for transport to a refinery. No problem in having a derrick or two actively drilling for new production, but get some horse-head pumps too.

Here's a look at the Walthers model.
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/933-3248

I am planning something similar to your idea and time frame. What I plan on having is a couple of production pumps scattered around, and a couple of storage tanks with piping and pumps next to a spur for loading tank cars. I believe many tank cars were designed for bottom loading, so you don't necessarily need a rack. Just a piping header running parallel to the track, with valves and coiled up hoses spaced about car length apart along the header.


Regards

Ed

[Anonymous]

if you are modeling 30s to 60s you can leave the derricks in place they were called standard derricks back then and they built one for each well that they drilled most of the wells back then flowed oil to the surface on there on. and if they did need a pumping unit they just installed it under the derrick that was allready there. they used the standard derrick to do any work on the well they would string up a set of blocks in the derrick and pulled the tubing out of the well. the small town I live close too as started putting them back up for tourist to see. the town was known at one time as the worlds richest acre

[leighant]

When you were asking about a "tanker" being offloading, did you mean a tanker ship or a railroad tankcar?
Some references for tankcar offloading at a BULK OIL DEALER
Bulk oil dealers, typical layout _Mod RRer_ June90 p.100
Bulk oil dist. terminal, modeling. _ModRRer_ Dec78 p.108
coal and bulk oil dealer, high angle color shot
America's Colorful Railroads (Ball) p.93
Conoco standpipe,scale drwng, _Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.16,19
Mobil standpipe, scale drwng, _Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.17,19
Oil depot depots, operations & pix
Conoco/ Fort Collins, Colorado
Conoco/ Greeley, Colorado
Conoco/ Loveland, Colorado
Mobil/ Loveland, Colorado
Phillips 66/ Fort Collins, Colorado
Shell/ Loveland, Colorado
Texaco/ Fort Collins, Colorado
Texaco/ Loveland, Colorado
_RailModJournal_ March 97 p.9-17
Shell oil distributor, Fullerton CA _Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.27
Shell standpipe, scale drwng, _Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.18,19
Standard Oil bulk dealer, Waterford, CA plans & 1973 pix,
_RailModJournal_ Apr96 p.14
Standpipes for unloading tank cars at bulk oil dealers
_Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.16,20
Texaco, Devils Lake, ND, pix, plans, N scale scrachbuild
_RailModJournal_ Dec94 p.12
Texaco standpipe, scale drwng, _Rail Model Journal_ May97 p.18,19
Tank car terminal- standpipe Model Railroader Mar04 p.100

I built two simple standpipes for the "fuel dump" facility on my United States Naval Air Station Tidelands (Lighter than air) Railroad.