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Walther's Double Crossover

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Walther's Double Crossover
Posted by Missouri Pacific BNSF on Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:44 AM

What type of Ground Throw(s) do I need for the Walther's double crossover?  I assume I will need 4 as well, correct?

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:54 AM

Missouri Pacific BNSF

What type of Ground Throw(s) do I need for the Walther's double crossover?  I assume I will need 4 as well, correct?

Correct, one to control each one of the four turnout portions of the double crossover.

For manual ground throws, you can use the Caboose Industries 220S.

Rich

Edit Note:  The 220S has an electrical contact for lighting.  The 202S is less expensive and comes without the electrical contact.  Both will work for this purpose.

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Posted by Missouri Pacific BNSF on Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:56 AM

Thanks

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:59 AM

Glad to be of help.

Rich

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Posted by Missouri Pacific BNSF on Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:00 PM

What type of throw for PECO Code 83 turnouts and wye's?  Insulfrogs...

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:03 PM

Insulfrogs are your best bet because the Electrofrogs will be more difficult to wire and they should not be necessary.

The 220S will work fine on the Peco Code 83 turnout.

Actually, with the spring installed on the Peco Code 83 turnout, you wouldn't even need a ground throw.

Just throw then by hand with a flick of the finger.

Rich

Edit Note:  The 220S has an electrical contact for lighting.  The 202S is less expensive and comes without the electrical contact.  Both will work for this purpose.

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Posted by zstripe on Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:21 PM

Does He really need the 220s with the Electrical contacts? Or would the 202s be better and cheaper for Him?

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Posted by richhotrain on Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:36 PM

Frank, you are correct.  I should have said, 202S.

Rich

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, October 19, 2013 8:51 AM

Double Crossovers do not use ground throws. They are located in places controlled by a tower and are controlled from the interlocking machine. Ground throws on a crossover are DANGEROUS to the crews who must cross live tracks to complete the alignment. You also need interlocking signal control to protect those tracks.

Nope, no way, not at all... Those beasts are always controlled from the tower.

On most interlocking machines, even though there is only one lever, there are two distinct controls on the frame, one for each switch. Each turnout must report back that it has moved and is locked before the lever will move to the reverse position.

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Posted by charlie9 on Saturday, October 19, 2013 1:21 PM

I hate to challenge the Lion but we had a double crossover right in front of the yard office in the old Big Four yard at Brooklyn Illinois.  It was hand thrown.

The TRRA also had a least one double crossover at Bridge Jct. (at the west end of Brooklyn yard) that was hand thrown by a switch tender at that location.  It was on one of the busiest main lines (or is it mane lions?)  in the whole St Louis terminal area.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, October 19, 2013 1:59 PM

But those on not on railroads, they are in the yards. Tracks are protected by yard limits.

Besides if I say you should build a tower, then you should build a tower. The last challenger that came by here ended up in a pulled port sandwich.

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:02 PM

BroadwayLion

Double Crossovers do not use ground throws.

They do on model railroads !

Rich

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:10 PM

TOWERS RULE!

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:12 PM

Let's assume that the OP is on a budget, so that rules out towers and Tortoises.

Manual ground throws rule !

Rich

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:07 PM

And the LION is NOT on a budget? Harumph, they won't even give me a budget to be on. Smile

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Posted by richhotrain on Saturday, October 19, 2013 5:26 PM

Besides, LION, the OP may not be as creative and inventive as you are.   Bow

Rich

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Posted by BATMAN on Saturday, October 19, 2013 6:35 PM

Double Mane Lions on my layout. If my fingers get run over I'll have to sell my GuitarsCrying. But on a brighter Music I'll have lots of money for more train stuff.Laugh

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, October 20, 2013 12:30 AM

Brent,

If you switched,to playing a Steel Guitar,,you only need a Thumb and one finger,to hold the bar.Big Smile

Cheers, Drinks      Nice track work!!

Frank

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