zstripe My credibility didn't,,,collapse,,,,Your's did,,,,Just tried to help you...nuff said on the matter.. Still i will say Good Luck TO YOU.. Cheers, Frank
My credibility didn't,,,collapse,,,,Your's did,,,,Just tried to help you...nuff said on the matter.. Still i will say Good Luck TO YOU..
Cheers,
Frank
my apologies.
SP&S modeler, 1960's give or take a decade or two for some equipment.
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Gary DuPrey
N scale model railroader
BrianinBuffalo It was only a thought.....I did not mean to upset anyone.
It was only a thought.....I did not mean to upset anyone.
JoeinPA thank you!!
Burlington Northern #24 Ok, after examining my layout I may have found a way to mount the new legs(once I get them and cut them). Also the layout will be mounted on wheels(with brakes just in case) any reccomendation for wheels/rollers? The office will be receiving a new floor and a layout on wheels will not scuff up the new floor.
Ok, after examining my layout I may have found a way to mount the new legs(once I get them and cut them). Also the layout will be mounted on wheels(with brakes just in case) any reccomendation for wheels/rollers?
The office will be receiving a new floor and a layout on wheels will not scuff up the new floor.
Gary:
Here are some to look at: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZc29f/h_d2/Navigation?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&searchRedirect=casters&redAB=A.
Joe
that now means that I have to get new lumber.... and build a whole new bench.....
Brian,
Yes,Brian, that is a good start,,,,hopefully!!,,,,,someone will listen..As for me,,I QUIT...
Have A Good One,,
Gary,
The ''Braces'' are the ones on the legs,,,,called sway braces,,,,the L,shapes,are called ''Girders'',for structural strength...and being against the wall has nothing to do with how sturdy it is ...It can be free standing,with that design also...
I've seen it but my layout will not be propped against the wall. I will do L braces once I have my own house and can build a massive layout. that layout will be 3 feet deep max, and there will not be a divider.
When you receive your issue of July MR,,,study the layout,,Great Northern in N-Scale,and read about his bench work,,,,He built it the same way that Alco_Fan showed you in his diagram,L-girder,braces with 2x2 legs,,that should answer your question,about how sturdy it will be,,,,,the layout is 10ftx11ft...
Good Luck
yes, those were my intent with the current legs but I wasn't fast enough to do that. How stable are layouts with those kinds of reinforcement.
These are the kinds of braces that work best. (except for the long diagonal one across the center of the benchwork. That is superfluous.)
Not these:
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I am out.
I don't want to sound like a donkey,,,,,but I agree with Alco_Fan,,,,you're setting yourself up for another,collapse...
Good Luck..
I will admit that they weren't secured correctly but I hadn't gotten the time to reinforce them. the 4 x 4 x 8's will be attached and secured with metal L braces.
Burlington Northern #242" x 2" are too flimsy, the ones that were under my layout collapsed even with bracing.
Then they were not secured correctly.
I support 2'X8' sections on L Girder legs made of two 1X2s each. Light, cheap, stay straight.
The issue is not the size of the lumber, but how it is attached and secured.
Good luck.
so at 8 bucks a piece, and simply cutting them in half is hard and expensive?
It's better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it. 2" x 2" are too flimsy, the ones that were under my layout collapsed even with bracing.
Burlington Northern #244" x 4" x 8' boards for the legs
That is way overkill, will be expensive heavy and hard to cut. Angled braces are what makes the legs sturdy. You can use 2"x2" or L Girder, just add the braces.
just an update on the layout or atleast the bench work part of it, I will be getting 4" x 4" x 8' boards for the legs and will get 1" x 2" x 8' for powerpack/control panels.I was also considering getting a 2' x 4' to use as an extension or something. not sure yet though, the 2' x 4' would have stored trains, and would've been unscenicked.
my sister and brother bought me a late birthday present, it is an assembled Model power building the "blue coal depot" I'm thinking of converting it to a pulpwood plant or woodchip plant so I could get some woodchip gondolas and have that as a switchable industry.
Ok, I'll also do some checking around. also Elliots trackside diner will have a spot on my layout somewhere too!
Ok, I will put that on an SP&S dome car!
it`s a mix of 15" and 13.75" radii. I am afraid you won´t be able to increase the radii above that figure. I´ll work though.
As for the car, it´s your choice to pick the type, but how about the name "Sir Madog of Abergenolwyn". There is a story behind that name, which I will tell you, but not in public
Sir Madog Gary, the minimum radius is 13.75". OK, a bit larger would have been better for the passenger trains, but at 6 ft. length you won´t have enough straight track to incorporate the turnouts you need. I feel flattered about your idea to name a car after me!
the minimum radius is 13.75". OK, a bit larger would have been better for the passenger trains, but at 6 ft. length you won´t have enough straight track to incorporate the turnouts you need.
I feel flattered about your idea to name a car after me!
also thanks for the quick response, would I be able to do it with 15" or is 13.75" the set?
Ulrich what's the minimum radius that you used for curves?
yep agreed, I'm naming a passenger car after him, lowell smith specialties is getting a car named after them too, I will name one after my grandma, the name cars will be run in the coumbia river cannonball consist. here's the loco and observation car for this set.
Ulrich that looks amazing! thank you!
OK, Gary, here it is, my layout idea for you!
I tried to capture some of the flavor of Stevenson, WA, where the tracks run along the northern bank of the Columbia River. Modeling a working hump yard, like the one in Pasco, does not work well in N scale, but IMHO, a regular yard will do also.
This is just a first draft - for the operations aficionados to build on.
Alternative design plan #1, the turntable will serve a simple function by reversing locomotives so that they are facing the proper way when they pick up and/or drop off their trains. the small yard above the turntable will serve as a pick up and drop off location for cars in consist. the top three tracks above the main will serve as a point where passenger cars and locomotives will get serviced trains will reverse in. the bottom area will be a couple industries or probably just one that will most likely be a lumber yard/ piggyback trailer pick up and drop off. I've streamlined the layout plan so that there's less clutter, the obnoxiously large yard has been removed, and there's plenty of free space to represent the surrounding area. 2 #10 turnouts, 4 #7's, and the remaining turnouts are #5's.
probably, Sir Madog is helping me.
On your new plan,,,at the bottom,,,could you not,shorten the two curves,at the 1ft mark and the two at the,51/2 ft mark,to get the track,further from the edge,on the bottom?? I know you said you use sectional track,,but how about a half section,to accomplish that?? Just a thought!!