Oh, yes. I remember the days of hand drawn layout plans. Seems just after about ten revisions, on paper, I had one that I liked and would do what I wanted.
Only after starting to lay track will you notice that even more revisions become necessary.
And remember you are to have fun, darn it!
Ken G Price My N-Scale Layout
Digitrax Super Empire Builder Radio System. South Valley Texas Railroad. SVTRR
N-Scale out west. 1996-1998 or so! UP, SP, Missouri Pacific, C&NW.
While you are working on the project this might help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n9prNixjbg
Bob
Don't Ever Give Up
I think the peninsula should come off of the west wall, rather than the south wall. It causes too many narrow aisles the way you have it now.
Overall, I think that what you are generally trying to do should fit in a 17x14 space, so that's encouraging.
- Douglas
Hi,
I assume you are building a HO layout modeling the 50's, with #4 turnouts and an 18"minimum radius.
Since you did not indicate where the door is human traffic is hard to judge.
All vertical aisles are way to narrow, one that will be used very often is only 1 ft wide; 2,5 ft would be "normal".
Way to many run-arounds and no-where spurs along the backdrop. Backdrop facades don't take much space ( 4" between the track and backdrop) .
The general idea behind your plan is good, sticking to accepted standards however would be wise. Lance Mindheim 's Miami based layouts are great more modern exemples, build with #6 turnouts and a 24" mim radius.
Smile
Paul
Doughless However, the aisle that's to the right of that building, at the end of the peninsula, is way too narrow. It will have to be widened, which will probably force you to redesign that entire industrial park I would wager.
However, the aisle that's to the right of that building, at the end of the peninsula, is way too narrow. It will have to be widened, which will probably force you to redesign that entire industrial park I would wager.
I took a better look at the drawing (which is surprisingly to scale, actually) and that aisle is only about 13-14 inches wide.
I agree with what NittanyLion wrote; however, the problems are fixable, since it seems you have some room in those areas.
1). Just slide both industries in that town and the road left about a foot to have space to extend the spur.
Consider flipping the industries that are served by the Tennessee with the blue interchange tracks. You can use three sided background buildings placed along the wall to save space and to make the industries seem larger. Having the blue interchange tracks along the bench edge instead of along the wall eliminates the need for that short crossover in the middle of the runaround.
2). Just make the industry triangular shaped which will allow the spur to be straight. However, the aisle that's to the right of that building, at the end of the peninsula, is way too narrow. It will have to be widened, which will probably force you to redesign that entire industrial park I would wager.
I would also put the yellow CSX tracks along the wall instead of crossing them over your shortline.
3) Extend the spur longer to the right. But the redesign of that peninsula will impact this spur too.
As for the yard; It seems like there should be enough room to fit 7 tracks into a 24-30 inch deep bench, but the jog in the benchwork that's at the upper right forces the yard to start too far to the left. Just straighten the benchwork and the car shop/enginehouse and you should have room for the yard. You might have to remove that industry that's in the upper right corner.
Make your final plans more to scale using proper squares and generous angles for turnouts. A hand drawn plan tends to not be perfectly accurate, so I would also eliminate all of the dipsy-doodles in the benchwork and just make it straight. The extra surface area will allow you extra space in case your drawing is off and you need to adjust the location of track as you build.
Good luck.
this is a rough draft. Also I was expecting the scan to b 1:1 of the paper but it wasn't. So next time I'll put them in plus a few other things >_>
You did not include a legend (so we can know what a half inch is on your plan) or tell us what scale you're modeling in (the answer definitely will effect how many cars a spur will hold). Number one: you know how long the spur is; measure a 50' car and you'll have the answer. Number two: too small for what? Number three: again, you know how long the siding is, and from number 1 you know how lone a 50' car is. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but these are questions that you have to answer based on your drawing and how you want to use the spurs.
Ray
1) Probably not.
2) Probably. But that curve is going to have to be really tight to get it around that building.
3) Yes.
That's just guesstimiation because there's no real reference points. I mentally divided the area into squares and I'm guessing that #1 spur is only about seven or eight inches long.
A lot of those turnouts seem way too ambitious. I'm almost certain that yard won't fit at all.
This is a 17x14 Around the walls layout plan I made. I have some questions before I make final plans.
1.) Is this MOW Spur big enough to hold one 50ft Evans Gondola?
2.) Is this spur to small?
3.) Will this spur hold two 50 foot boxcars?