not trying to get off topic, But where does premade/off the shelf sceinic cement(ex;woodland sceinic brand) fit in this ,is it glue or matt medium ? .....Jerry
Based on the cost (about eight bucks for 16oz.) I would say it's closer to matte medium. For about $16.00, you can get 128oz. of white glue.
Wayne
doctorwayne Based on the cost (about eight bucks for 16oz.) I would say it's closer to matte medium. For about $16.00, you can get 128oz. of white glue. Wayne
Yep, it's diluted medium, or something essentially the same, without the talc added (or with it removed, either way).
This is one of those cases in which the home based solution -- whether matte medium or white glue -- is really a better choice than the commercial product.
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Great thread guys.
And worth reviving since it's got good info and is even halfway fresh in terms of time.
Did you know that if you Google "removing dried matte medium" this is the top pick? Then it's followed by a bunch of artsy stuff of not much use to anyone, except advertisers.
Good work!
I had to keep reading, but eventually y'all got around to discussing exactly what I needed -- how to get a little matte medium off the track. I forgot how hard that stuff is to get off and got a little sloppy taking up the tape doing some scenery last night.A little alcohol rub with a rag and the rails were spiffy and conductive again. It really is difficult to scrub it off physically
Don't be a hero, reach for the bottle...
Note to self: Use wider tape on the track next time and don't be such a klutz ripping the tape off all nasty.
BTW, the comment about matte medium changing the color of your scenery once dried?
That's probably from the talc. It acts like adding a white wash over your stuff. Let it sit and then decant the good majority off the sludge in the bottle, as others have noted. It tends to vary in my experience and whether you got the jug from near the bottom of the batch tank when they were brewing that run up at the plant...
Mike Lehman
Urbana, IL
mlehman Did you know that if you Google "removing dried matte medium" this is the top pick? I had to keep reading, but eventually y'all got around to discussing exactly what I needed -- how to get a little matte medium off the track. I forgot how hard that stuff is to get off and got a little sloppy taking up the tape doing some scenery last night.A little alcohol rub with a rag and the rails were spiffy and conductive again. It really is difficult to scrub it off physically
Did you know that if you Google "removing dried matte medium" this is the top pick?
Just to reinforce this notion, to remove dried matte medium, simply apply 70% isopropyl alcohol to the track or rails. It removes matte medium as easily as water removes white glue.
Rich
Alton Junction
White glue and matt both dry by an evaporate method. White is meant to be thin where as matt, it doesn't matter but will take longer to fully cure if too thick, both will still dry if too thick but the white glue can remain totally liquid for way longer. Now the important things. Most important white glue dose not stick to itself very well if at all, matt dose. White glue will not adhere well to non porous materials (i.e. ballast) matt dose as it tends to envelop the product, even that on the surface. Premixed matt is more expensive at $17 a gallon as white glue undiluted is the same price but of course you get more once diluted.
I use a 25/75 mix of matte medium to 70% alcohol with 1 drop of Dawn for my ballast.
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