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Switching Layout - Planning Suggestions Needed

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Switching Layout - Planning Suggestions Needed
Posted by JL UK on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 7:54 AM

I posted a while ago looking for suggestions on switching layouts and recieved a lot of very useful links and suggestions.  http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/themes/trc/forums/thread.aspx?ThreadID=182757&PostID=2000615&PermaPostID=2000615

I have been rethinking my original goal of a 5ft length, it's just too short, and I now realise I can just about fit a 6.5ft plan into my upstairs office, still with room for a small detachable fiddle yard off the end.

Setting-wise, i'm keen to model an urban yard, something like a larger version of the "Brooklyn 3am" or a smaller version of "Sweethome Chicago".  I'm definitely thinking East Coast as a setting and I want to use soem of those outstanding DPM building kits!

I have downloaded the TrkCad program and had a lot of fun fiddling around with various designs, but nothing has yet hit the jackpot in terms of getting good operation.  I feel like I'm going round in circles.

Can anyone suggest a good switching trackplan, no longer than 6.5ft and around 2ft deep (78x24) that will give a good variety of operational switching using HO scale 50ft boxcars.

I'm thinking something like a wider version of this http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page16/serendip.jpg but with an extra mainline run.

Ideally I'd like to have a mainline that remains free, so eventually (in a larger space, or in an exhibition) a behind the scenes loop would allow mainline trains to be run continuously while switching takes place in the foreground or background.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 8:40 AM

In the 1990´s, MR ran a series on how to build a switching layout. It was the "Port of Los Angeles" layout by Bob Smaus.

The following track plan is based on this beautifully done layout:

It is 6" inches longer than you have mentioned, but can easily be shortened. It is 28" deep, but you can reduce that by a couple of inches as well. The cassette staging is my addition.

This is the original track plan:

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Posted by cuyama on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 10:45 AM

The Port of LA plan is interesting visually and is a favorite of mine from that standpoint, but the convoluted runaround might prove quite frustrating over time. A more straightforward plan such as Linn Westcott's "Switchman's Nightmare" might be a better layout for more prototypical (real-life) switching operations.

This is a useful design, in my view, because one can simulate both railroad yard and multi-track industry delivery activities for more interest and fun.

The key is overlapping model railroad operating functions (industry leads, runarounds, etc.) within a given length.

Byron

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Posted by steinjr on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:05 AM

JL UK

I have downloaded the TrkCad program and had a lot of fun fiddling around with various designs, but nothing has yet hit the jackpot in terms of getting good operation.  I feel like I'm going round in circles.

Can anyone suggest a good switching trackplan, no longer than 6.5ft and around 2ft deep (78x24) that will give a good variety of operational switching using HO scale 50ft boxcars.

I'm thinking something like a wider version of this http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page16/serendip.jpg but with an extra mainline run.

Ideally I'd like to have a mainline that remains free, so eventually (in a larger space, or in an exhibition) a behind the scenes loop would allow mainline trains to be run continuously while switching takes place in the foreground or background.

 I guess it really depends on your definition of "good operations". 

 You may mean "track heavy" - like that serendip layout with yet another added main. Or some variety of Linn Westcott's switchman's neightmare - like Scot Osterweil's 6 x 1 foot "Highland Terminal" layout: http://carendt.us/articles/highland/

 Or you could go to the opposite extreme and go for something like a subset of the Dave Hill's New Castle Industrial layout: http://oscalewcor.blogspot.com/2010_10_01_archive.html - light on tracks, heavy on operations.

 You also have stuff like Chuck Yungkurth's 6 x 1 foot Gum Stump and Snow Shoe layout : http://www.carendt.us/scrapbook/page38a/index.html

 You got "Shortliner Jack" Trollope's Attleboro layout (and variants):

 

You got Kelly Russel's tymesaver/inglenook combo "Russel Junction": http://home.earthlink.net/~russell_junction/

 Lots of different approaches. But what will work for you depends on what you mean by "good operations".

 Smile,
 Stein

 

 

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Posted by JL UK on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:39 AM

By 'good operation'  I guess I mean I'm really looking for a plan that gets lots of switching opportunities, so it will feature several industries/sidings that need to be fed with cars.  But, hopefully not one that is a nightmare to operate (the 'switchmans nightmare' sounds like it might be too complex?)  :)

I'm also hoping to have a plan that can have two or more engines on it at any given time, so I will need enough space to get a GP38 or similar in there, not just a short yard switching engine.

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Posted by AlpineModeler on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 11:54 AM

I based my under construction shelf layout on this track plan; http://mrr.trains.com/~/media/import/files/pdf/b/8/a/rb0501_a.ashx

I used it mainly for inspiration and modified it heavily.

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Posted by cuyama on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 12:03 PM

JL UK

(the 'switchmans nightmare' sounds like it might be too complex?)  :)

"Nightmare" is just a name. Operating that layout is actually more straightforward and realistic than on most published switching layouts.

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Posted by steinjr on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 12:31 PM

AlpineModeler

I based my under construction shelf layout on this track plan; http://mrr.trains.com/~/media/import/files/pdf/b/8/a/rb0501_a.ashx

I used it mainly for inspiration and modified it heavily.

 Jonathan Jones' 10 foot long H0 scale Mid-Atlantic and Western. A good plan. An guy I know is building an 8 foot N scale (i.e. a slightly stretched) layout inspired by this layout

 Track plan:

 

 Cars shown are 60-footers - about the length of a GP38.

 Couple of early construction photos:

 

6 feet in N scale is the equivalent of a 10 1/2 foot layout in H0 scale. You can do quite a bit in 10 1/2 foot in H0 scale.

E.g. Peter White's Tenderfoot Industrial Railroad :

 

 If all I had was 6 feet, and I wanted a layout where I could run two engines, I would have investigated N scale.

 Smile,
 Stein

 

 

 

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Posted by tommy2tap on Tuesday, December 7, 2010 1:14 PM

as long as your checking out small layout scapbook look at the plan for the gumstump and snowshoe. it was originally designed in the 60's and uses a space of 1 foot by 6 foot

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