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Building grade crossing roads

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aet
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Building grade crossing roads
Posted by aet on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:35 AM

Hi,

I am trying to decide the best way to build a grade crossing enbankment. What materials have been used for the sub-road and what is used for the finished road on top. If you have any suggestions and pics I would greatly appreciate your help.

 

thanks

Art

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Posted by locoi1sa on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:48 PM

 I have used scultamold, plaster, joint compound(for thin road) and finely screened sand for a dirt road.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:44 PM

I use Durham's Water Putty for my roads.  It's a cheap hardware store item.

I mix it up with water and add a little vinegar to slow the setting process.  It can be poured for a few minutes, and then it starts to set up.  While it's setting, I use a foam brush which I keep wet with a container of water to smooth and contour the road.  It will hold a crown all by itself.

After an hour or so, it will set rock-hard.  I use a wash of gray acrylic paint in water to color it, applied in several coats.  This makes the color slightly uneven, which I like better than a uniform color.

While liquid, you can brush the putty right up to the rail heads on the outsides of the track.  I use styrene between the rails, but you could make up a form to keep the rail insides clear, and pour some putty between the rails as well.  This intersection used a wood plank section between the rails.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:52 PM

I use a variety of techniques.  For this one, I used pre-mixed drywall mud (the track in the foreground is on cork roadbed, while the track on which the locomotive sits is laid directly on the plywood):



It was applied over the already-in-place scenery, which is patching plaster over aluminum screen.  While it's easy to smooth, it's quite soft when dry, hence the various "patched" areas.  The boards are .080" thick styrene strips, of various widths to suit.  This height, when used with code 83 rail, puts the top surface just below the railhead, useful if you need to clean your track.  For most similar-style roads, I use the patching plaster, as seen below, as it's much harder.


For this gravel road, I again used styrene boards around the rails, and spread a ballast mix onto the painted plaster road surface, fastening it in place as you would ballast:

In more urban areas, I used sheet styrene to represent the road surface:

I cemented .020" thick styrene strips to the tops of the ties - both sides of both rails, butted-up against the moulded-on spike heads, then cemented .060" thick sheet styrene atop those, butted against the rails on the outside edges.

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Posted by Wikious on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:58 PM

 I haven't built one yet, but the March 2008 Model Railroader had an article on installing a highway grade crossing. You might find that helpful.

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Posted by Sperandeo on Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:03 AM

Nice work, Wayne!

How about sending some pictures of that layout to MR?

Thanks,

Andy
 

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:44 AM

Thanks for the kind words, Andy.

I was going to send photos for your locomotive kitbashing contest, as I had documented a rebuild of a brass loco, but my pictures are not in the proper format for magazine use, and my camera is not capable of producing RAW or TIFF images.  Nice thought, though. Smile

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Posted by diezmon on Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:45 AM

 

 I'm using joint compound tinted with black dye, but made my crossings out of balsa, stained with a black wash.

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Posted by doctorwayne on Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:32 AM

Nice work on your road surfaces, diezmon.  Very effective use of colour. Thumbs Up

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Posted by mikelhh on Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:26 PM

I used water putty and coloured it with a series of acrylic washes.

I used clay to keep the putty clear of the inside of the rails

 

 

 Strip styrene was then glued in for reinforcing

 

Fine and coarse ballast was used at the road edges.

 

Mike

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Posted by diezmon on Friday, September 18, 2009 9:16 AM

mikelhh

I used water putty and coloured it with a series of acrylic washes.

I used clay to keep the putty clear of the inside of the rail

 Strip styrene was then glued in for reinforcing

Fine and coarse ballast was used at the road edges.

Mike

 

 

great color Mike, tell us about your washes.. :)

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Posted by mikelhh on Friday, September 18, 2009 8:42 PM

  Weeell, from memory I started off with a very runny wash of black, but because it was so thin the yellow of the putty showed through too much, so I had to add some white to it. The little flaw that runs along the road had pure black painted into it. Elsewhere I also used washes of raw umber, both with and without white, and I added some purple to the black for the richer unfaded and undriven-on colour at the edge.

I like to give it a fine misting of water before each colour is added so they settle down nicely without looking stuck on.

 

 

 

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Posted by PhilM on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:48 PM

Sorry to be dumb but what is water putty? What is it used for, as on this side of the pond it is likely to be called something different!

 

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Posted by mikelhh on Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:19 PM

Phil  it's a powder that you mix roughly 1 part to 3 parts water to fill in cracks and imperfections in all sorts of things - timber or masonry for example.

 Here in Aust I use Agnew's, available at the hardware store. 

http://www.melbournemilling.com.au/index.php

Hopefully that will help you find something similar in the UK 

In the US they tend to use Durham's.


 

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Posted by Paulus Jas on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:11 AM

 hi Art

Look at the september MR cover and in the oktober issue.

The SF, Frisco layout and even the step by step series showed them. 

Paul 

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