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Merging Waters

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Merging Waters
Posted by BATMAN on Monday, July 27, 2009 8:09 PM

 I would like to model some scenes of where a creek or river runs into another river or a lake. If anyone has done this I would love to see your photo's. Also where a creek/river drains out of a lake. I have not seen any pictures of such scenes but would like to if they exist. It may be something a little different.Thanks muchly.

 

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Posted by chutton01 on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:00 AM

Well, I suppose you have already used Bing (erstwhile live-local) to trace a few watercourses - here on beautiful South Shore Long Island Tongue what watercourses exist tend to be channelized w/ concrete and culvert (which is usually nicely done, but not natural)

Here's where 2 creeks come together - notice nothing too spectaular.
Here's Brookville park - (not too channelized at this point) - note the creek just widens out into a lake (or pond), and then narrows again (a bit north of this, the creek enters another pond in a area of reeds - that is very common around here where the creeks are not channelized).
I plan on modeling this on a module in a year to two (Frankford Creek into the Delaware), as you can see pretty unexciting, and fairly easy to model (and to compress - I'm going for 1/3 the actual width) - OK, so that channel was man-made in the 1950s, still you get the idea of lots of trees & brush overlooking the shores of the creek as it merges into the river (perhaps almost hiding very small creeks and streams - say 1 metre or less in width - as they merge into bigger streams.  Also consider erosion effects on banks - usually they can be a mess if they are soft ground.

That said, I cannot help you w/ streams and creeks in, say the Rocky Mountains, if that's what you're looking for.  But I can say that google images has lots of creeks entering lake images...

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Posted by wm3798 on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:35 PM

I used a 1" falls to bring a small creek into the river on my layout.  I used sculptamold and some natural rocks to detail it.

 

 

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Posted by Grampys Trains on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:19 PM

 Hi Brent: This is a small feeder stream emptying into a larger stream. BTW, very nice scene, Lee.DJ

 

 

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Posted by mikelhh on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:01 PM

 Lovely examples, fellas Thumbs Up

Here's my effort - a polluted drain flows into the river with some just visible milky acrylic paint mixed into the resin.

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:09 PM

 Wow! Great shots here. Mike that photo looks so real and I am encouraged to try a polluted waterway through my railyard. It would look right at home in the steam era.

DJ. Is that Faux Fur . I think I can see a moose chomping away in that stuff standing chest deep in water, in my Rocky Moutain pass.

Lee. I like the rocks on your shoreline are they real? I am thinking of using Birdseye gravel on the shoreline and in the water. Would that work or are there better rocks to be had or made?

Chutton. Good photo's although not rocky enough for out here on the "rugged" west coast. You should try planting a lawn.Shock

One more question I have is, Would aluminium flashing make a good leakproof base to use as river or lake bottoms? I have some 3' x 50' rolls of dark brown and could bend up the edges to hold in the liquid and slide it under the foam cutting grooves for the bent up part.. Thanks again.

 

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Posted by Grampys Trains on Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:05 PM

Hi Brent: The tall grass is from a Silflor summer sampler pack. As to flashing, is your stream/river going to be straight or curved? Flashing might be a little hard to curve. Just my opinion. I don't know what Birdseye gravel is, but here are some pebbles I gathered from a parking lot.

 

 

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Posted by CTValleyRR on Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:20 PM

Here is a small stream flowing into the Connecticut River which I made on a diorama for a Cub Scouts event.

I'm not sure what you need the aluminum flashing for.  You're not planning to use real water, are you?  This river is made of Woodland Scenics Realistic Water over a riverbed of sculptamold on plywood painted with watercolor paints.  The piece of molding which forms the layout edge is attached with carpenter's (yellow) glue.  I had no problem with leaks while it hardened.  The stream was made by using acrylic gloss gel gobbed on over the rocky stream bed, touched with white acrylic paint for the foamy effect..

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Posted by wm3798 on Friday, August 14, 2009 7:54 AM

 The rocks in my scene are real, I collected them on a camping trip out to the area I'm modeling.  It's a very loose shale, so it was easy to get a variety of sizes and shapes.

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Posted by hwolf on Friday, August 14, 2009 5:34 PM

The photo below is the end result of a stream going over 3- 12" high falls and ending through the canyon and finally becoming a White Water river. Notice the Skinny Dipper.

 

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Posted by twhite on Friday, August 14, 2009 6:02 PM

On my Yuba River Sub, I have both the Middle Fork of the Yuba River and Oregon Creek flowing into Bullard's Bar Reservoir.  Here's a shot of Oregon Creek draining into the lake.

 

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Posted by larak on Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:12 PM

The best I can do is a brook into a farm pond:

The pond drains through cracks in its bottom and comes out as a spring one level down (construction photo):

Which turns into black creek (late construction photo):

 

Just look at nature and you'll get plenty of ideas.

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