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The River's Edge

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Posted by selector on Sunday, April 5, 2009 11:16 AM

I believe that Woodland Scenics sells a special effects product for water to generate that look.  What others have used is teased cotton or polyester fiber glued lightly at the top end onto rocks and what have you, and the lower end glued to the river bed and other stones and rocks.  You want the fibers close to parallel, or better, parallel.  Then you drizzled Mod Podge gloss medium onto the upper reaches and let it flow down over the filaments. 

 

I have never done this, and am just relaying what my understanding is based on reading descriptions here and there.

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Posted by mcfunkeymonkey on Sunday, April 5, 2009 9:32 AM

I was thinking of a way to get the oxygenated whiteness of water passing over rocks.  The mod podge dries super clear, so I was thinking of ways to add thickness / volume to it.  I wonder if a layer of matte modpodge under the gloss would give the water some roil.

But perhaps I should just pour another thin layer of Magic Water tinted with something.  Or spread a thin layer of caulk over some of the more "turbulent" areas, and then gloss.

The end result will look like this:

 

By pouring the Magic Water over the rocks, I gave them the wet shine.  I plan adding the moss at the VERY end by dabbing a bit of matte podpodge on the tops of rocks, sprinkling some WS "green grass" turf (very fine & makes a nice rich moss covering), letting dry then vacuuming up the excess.

That gloss over cardboard looks nifty (and easy!)  Hafta remember that technique when building the bigger layout.

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Posted by mononguy63 on Saturday, April 4, 2009 10:22 PM

I don't know how you'd tint Modge Podge, or if you'd even really want to try. It comes out of the bottle a white goo which you can spread thin and stipple for wave effects. Be sure not to spread it very thick or else it'll dry a milky white (the top surface dries and seals the uncured lower parts underneath).

The surface of this little lake was made with Modge Podge and a cheap foam paint brush, over a piece of black-painted cardboard: 

Jim

"I am lapidary but not eristic when I use big words." - William F. Buckley

I haven't been sleeping. I'm afraid I'll dream I'm in a coma and then wake up unconscious.  -Stephen Wright

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Posted by mcfunkeymonkey on Friday, April 3, 2009 8:24 PM

It's Magic Water, not epoxy (don't know if that matters).  Can I cut it or file it?  I guess I could use it dam some gloss modpodge, sculpting it into white horses defending the stream from dark riders trying to cross its boundry Smile,Wink, & Grin

Anyone know the best tinting stuff for gloss modpodge?  (I tried some acryllic green on a different project and it came up flecky & gross, looking like diseased phlegm).  I'm guessing solvent-based like floquil?

Thanks again!

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Posted by selector on Friday, April 3, 2009 7:50 PM

Good job!  The lip does form, unfortunately, or fortunately...depends on your viewpoint.  If nothing else it could serve as a mini dam for your next layer if that is forthcoming.  If you decide you want something closer to your ideal, something you think might be a bit more realistic, then a thin added layer with some thing else added will be all that is needed, and the lip will help to retain this thin top layer.  Of course, you'd dam it all again as you did the first time...with tape...but less of it would want to run down between the tape and the original pour.

Don't be afraid to add one more layer if you aren't quite happy with it.  I have found that gloss medium of the Mod Podge kind actually lifts, or peels, off of the harder cured epoxy.  I don't know about your product...it may bind to it.  But the gel medium is easy to stipple to get a wavy effect or the effect of agitated water.  It can also be tinted, and this is what you may wish to add at some point when you know the top surface is truly cured.

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The River's Edge
Posted by mcfunkeymonkey on Friday, April 3, 2009 5:45 PM

Hello!
Thanks all who gave advice for the riverbed / water pour: I poured a couple layers of Magic Water (WS Realistic Water didn't do it for me on a previous project: too much shrinkage, and not because of the cold! Wink)
The bottom pour I mixed in a little Floquil Grimy Black, and left the upper layer clear (northwest runoff-fed mountain stream).  I think it worked pretty well:

 

I'm going to use some gloss mogpodge for some movement in places. 

I also covered the fascia lip with blue painters tape as some suggested & it held beautifully!  No seepage!  I just pulled it off after letting it cure for a couple of days and A. the tape left a bit of gummy along the water & B. there's a bit of a up-curved lip at the water's edge. 

 

Any suggestions for finishing the edge?  Thanks for all yr help!
--Mark

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