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"Railroads You Can Model"
Posted by cessna 310 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:53 AM

Many years ago Linn Wescott published a book with various track plans.

One of those was for a "Milwaukee Road Beer Line".

If I recall the book had a blue cover with Santa Fe blue/yellow freight engines on the cover.

Does anyone know of this book and where I can get a copy?

I foolishly loaned my copy to a friend and it was never returned.

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Posted by jecorbett on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:08 AM

I have one of the books in that series and it may be the one you are referening to. I believe the cover photo was taken on Tehacapi Loop and if I remember right, an SP loco was on a siding. I don't recall the Beer Line being one of the railroads featured but it has been a while since I looked through it. I don't have access to it right now but could look to see if the Beer Line is in it. However, my old railroad books are keepsakes. I wouldn't want to part with any of them.

You might check on e-bay to see if it is offered. You might get lucky there.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:09 AM

Either you are looking for the wrong book, or there were two by the same name.  The soft-cover book I have is called "Railroads You Can Model".  It is a 72 page Kalmbach book edited by Mike Schafer.  It has a blue cover with two pictures.  The upper picture has an ATSF unit on the left and a SP unit alongside.  The lower photo has a model DM&IR SD9.  The ISBN number is 0-89024-526-6.

There are 9 railroads featured.  However, there is not a Milwaukee Road Beer Line.  The closest alcohol-related railroad in the book is the Bath and Hammondsport, but they hauled wine around.

The beer line subject you mention sounds like the subject for the latest model railroad project in MR.

Maybe there was another book that fits the description of what I have.

Regards 

(Oh, the book copyright date is 1976.  Don't know if that qualifies for your definition of "many years ago".

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Posted by alfadawg01 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:27 PM

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Posted by on30francisco on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:43 PM

 You should try your public library. If they don't have it, they can order it for you via an interlibrary loan.

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Posted by AltonFan on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:31 PM

And then there was this one as well:  Classic Railroads You Can Model, which was a compilation of the more popular articles from the original books.  I believe the Beer Line article is included.

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Posted by stilson4283 on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:48 PM

In the amazon online reader you can see the table of contents.  The railroads included are:

New York, Ontario & Western

DM&IR

Wabash (N&W) mixed-train branch line

B&M's Gloucester branch

Virginia & Truckee

GM&O doodlebug line

SP's Tehachapi Loop

Monon

McCloud River Railroad

PRR's Horseshoe Curve and Gallitizin tunnels

Maryland & Pennsylvania

Milwaukee Road's Beer Line

So this is the one you were looking for.

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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:36 AM

 If you go to the Model Railroad index on this site http://index.mrmag.com/ under books you can find most of the model railroad books printed with information about each.  They are also included in the index so you can search that as well.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:22 AM

"Classic Railroads You Can Model" is kind of a "best of" compilation from "Railroads You Can Model" and "More Railroads You Can Model". The Beer Line story is in "Classic Model Railroads You Can Model", I believe the story was originally in the second book, "More Railroads You Can Model" IIRC.

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Posted by dknelson on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:31 AM

Rasilroads You Can Model was a series of articles that appeared now and then for years in Model Railroader magazine, and before that, in Model Trains, Kalmbach's magazine for beginners.  Some of those articles were gathered into the soft cover books "Railroads You Can Model" and "More Railroads You Can Model."  And as mentioned above, Kalmbach has published "Classic Railroads You Can Model."

I don't recall if the Beer Line article is taken from one in Model Trains, or the wonderful article in a 1952 Trains magazine.  Or maybe edited from both.

There were many fine articles in that series that never made it into any of the books.

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Posted by wjstix on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:41 AM

A while back National Geographic came out with a boxed set of maybe 18-20 CD-Roms that had every issue of National Geographic back to the very first one. I've sometimes wondered why Kalmbach and Carstens don't make MR, RMC, Trains, etc. available in something like that. I know as someone interested in both railroad history and model railroad history I'd buy a complete MR set on disk.

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Posted by cessna 310 on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:53 AM

Thanks to all who responded with their information.

I have located the softcover book "More Railroads You Can Model", Mike Shafer, Kalmbach, 1978.

Many thanks to "Ironrooster", "Stilson4283" and "Alfadawg01" they were spot on.

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Posted by wjstix on Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:34 PM

Well...better late than never I dug out the books. Ashamed

"Railroads You Can Model" came out in 1976 and "More Railroads You Can Model" came out in 1978. "Milwaukee Road's Beer Line" was on pg. 46 of "More Railroads You Can Model". The Bibliography in the back says "Based on "The Beer Line" by Andy Anderson, MODEL TRAINS, April 1955. Text revision and new track plans by George H. Drury." It also references "The Beer Line that made Milwaukee famous" by Wallace W. Abbey in the Aug 1952 issue of "Trains and Travel" (which is what they called "Trains" mag for a while) and "Cement Plant Railroad" by Martin Boyce in the June 1952 MR.

Interestingly there are plans for two versions, one a 4' x 8' with option for continuous running, and the other a 2' by 10' switching layout.  

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Posted by cessna 310 on Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:05 AM

Thank you for taking the time to help me out.

I located a copy of "More Railroads You Can Model" at Amazon.com.

I was surprised to see just how many copies were available.

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Posted by wedudler on Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:37 PM

 I've orderd a copy from Amazon, too.     Smile

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Posted by wjstix on Friday, April 3, 2009 4:49 PM

 I noticed this book at the Milwaukee Road Historical Society website, $20 but only 30 copies left!!

http://www.mrha.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=pub5

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Posted by MStLfan on Friday, April 3, 2009 7:56 PM

wjstix

 I noticed this book at the Milwaukee Road Historical Society website, $20 but only 30 copies left!!

http://www.mrha.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=pub5

I have it and I like it very much. It has information on the northern part of the line that is not included in the Classic railroads you can model book. Get it while you can. While over there, check out if their book on Chicago is still available. Milwaukee Road hired a professional photographer and it has lots of nice arial pictures.

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