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I Wish They Still Made Them Like This

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Posted by cordon on Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:31 AM

cordon
I have bought some "make-before-break" 4-pole, triple-throw rotary switches from Mouser Electronics to operate my Atlas turnouts, including powering the frog and indicator lights without a relay or changing to Tortoise.

 

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Unfortunately, recent testing revealed that I have to rotate the rotary switches very slowly to make a pulse long enough to move the Atlas turnout reliably.  I will probably return to 4-pole, double-throw switches with a pushbutton.  The extra poles are for panel indicator lights, track signals, and powering the frogs.

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Posted by cordon on Monday, March 2, 2009 5:54 PM

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"What you described as an 'electrofrog' is really more like an 'insulfrog'.  True Peco 'electrofrog' turnouts has a 'live' frog that needs insulated gaps on the frog eng of the turnout.  The metal frog on the current Atlas turnouts can be powered using contacts on a switch motor like a Tortoise."

Thank you.  I still have trouble keeping the "electrofrog" and "insulfrog" definitions clear in my mind.  I have bought some "make-before-break" 4-pole, triple-throw rotary switches from Mouser Electronics to operate my Atlas turnouts, including powering the frog and indicator lights without a relay or changing to Tortoise.

But this thing (above) is so much better, having it all built in.  I looked briefly at the Roco Model Trains site, but I didn't see a turnout just like it.

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Posted by jrbernier on Sunday, March 1, 2009 9:32 AM

  What you have is an Atlas 'Custom Line' turnout from the 80's.  The were imported by Atlas and manufactured by Roco(IIRC).  The actual construction was quite good, but the switch machine still burned outIthe internal contacts would 'tack' and the current kept flowing).  Also the switch machine was sort of 'snap' attached.  They did have a powered frog.

  The current Atlas Customline and 'Super Switch' turnouts are quite similar in construction.  They have both routes powered(been that way since the 60's).  What you described as an 'electrofrog' is really more like an 'insulfrog'.  True Peco 'electrofrog' turnouts has a 'live' frog that needs insulated gaps on the frog eng of the turnout.  The metal frog on the current Atlas turnouts can be powered using contacts on a switch motor like a Tortoise.  I had 4 of the 'curved' ones on my layout.  They had 22"/18" radius curves in them.  I cut off the switch machine when I got them, as all of my turnouts have either Tortoise motors or Caboose Industries ground throws.

Jim

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, March 1, 2009 5:36 AM

 Made in Austria by Roco.  You can find them today under the Roco brand name if you can find a hobby shop or on-line store that imports Roco track products.

 

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Posted by WSOR 3801 on Sunday, March 1, 2009 2:58 AM

 They also had these:

I don't need the double slips, and the curved turnouts are too sharp for my needs, but there they were.

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Posted by rrinker on Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:34 PM

 Interesting, I've never seen one in the 'wild' before. I've seen the ads from Atlas in Model Railroader mentioning them, but Atlas ads only talked about them for a short period of time. Seems like they should have caught on big time, being that they had all the fancy features, but maybe they cost too much when they were new or something.

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Posted by Allegheny2-6-6-6 on Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:33 PM

 I could be wrong but it sure looks liek a regualr Atlas turnout to me. Have you tried emailing Atlas?

Just my 2 cents worth, I spent the rest on trains. If you choked a Smurf what color would he turn?
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I Wish They Still Made Them Like This
Posted by cordon on Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:09 PM

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I found this turnout with some old brass flex track.  It has features that I would like to have on all my turnouts:

  It provides power to both branches all the time.

  It has "electrofrog" already built in and connected.

  Each solenoid coil disconnects itself after moving, so you can use a normal electrical SPST switch, instead of a momentary contact.

It is marked "Atlas," "MS 254," "NS 274," and "Made in Austria."  I think I'll go back to try to get some more of them.

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